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To do:
'' I just want to give it a try and start this chart with my - admittedly - poor knowledge of the language Hindi. I'm having available here a narrow vocabulary and some knowledge of Hindi phonology.''


#Assemble corpus
''First, we'd have to decide which contrasts should match the Lojban voiced/unvoiced consonant pairs, since most Hindi consonants can be distinguished according voiced/unvoiced, aspirated/unaspirated, retroflex/'normal', which e.g. for the dental stops or labial plosives means:''


##Old List
'''d - dh - d(retro) - dh(retro) - t - th - t(retro) - th(retro)'''


##egroups
'''b - bh - b(retro) - bh(retro) - p - ph - p(retro) - ph(retro)'''


##New List
''etc.''


##JL
''The vowels are:''


##Wiki (frozen)
'''a, i, u, e, o''' ''- each coming in pairs: short-open (a, i, u) or moreorless long-moreorless closed (e, o). There are still two diphtongs'' '''ae-e''' ''and'' '''o-o''' ''with pretty different articulation according different local pronunciation. So what?''


##Members list
a  r'''a'''str-bh'''a'''s'''a''' (national language)


##Russian List
e  d'''e'''n'''e''' (give)


##ftp site
i  pahl'''i''' (first)


##irc logs
o  praj'''o'''g (application), h'''o''' (of)


##jboske
u  p'''u'''ri tarah (fully, full manner/way)


##lojban beginners
y  -


##lessons
ai  sth'''ai''' prakriti (enduring nature)


##''websites?''
au -


#Sample entry: ''nau''
ei -


#Concordancing software
oi -


#Voting software
ia  kri'''ja'''tmak (effective), '''ja'''tha (namely)


#Defining cmavo
ie  li'''je''' (for)


##Identify beforehand salient combinations and grammatical contexts
ii  -


### -nai and everything
io  pra'''jo'''g (application)


###sumtcita vs. tense
iu  -


###Some issues are in scope to be resolved by dictionary; some issues are purely [[jbocre: Proposed interpretive conventions|Proposed interpretive conventions]], not to be resolved within scope.
ua  -


##Identify debates
ue  -


##Identify usage
ui  -


##Summary position
uo  -


##Vote
uu  -


##Dissent: counterposition
b  '''bh'''arat (India) -''there's no 'normal' '''b''' in my sample text, sorry!''


##Iterate, watering down
c  ki'''sh'''t (rate, instalment?)


#Selecting lujvo
d  '''d'''ene (give), '''d'''ija/'''di'''je (given), hin'''d'''i (Hindi)


##Frequency of usage in English
f  -


##Frequency of usage in Lojban
g  a'''g'''ja-patra (laws)


##jvajvo
j  -


##naturalist
k  sar'''k'''ari (official)


#Selecting fu'ivla
l  '''l'''e '''l'''egi (will take/occupy/replace)


##disciplines
m  kra'''m''' (system)


##culture words: type 3
n  '''n'''ishcaj (decision)


----
p  '''p'''arivartan (conversion)


Done:
r  '''r'''up (form)


#Do logo: Cat with shepherd's crook ("herding cats") '''ba'o se zukte mi'e bypyfykyjy'''
s  '''s'''than (place, location), '''s'''ath-'''s'''ath (together with)


#Do prototype page '''ba'o se zukte mi'e bypyfykyjy'''
t '''t'''arah (manner, form, way)


#[[jbocre: Mini-dictionary paradigms ivvying selma'o|Mini-dictionary paradigms ivvying selma'o]]  '''ba'o se zukte mi'e bypyfykyjy'''
v  '''v'''ikas (developement), patra-'''v'''ja'''v'''ahar (correspondence)


##[[BAI subclasses ivvying BAI|BAI subclasses ivvying BAI]] '''ba'o se zukte mi'e bypyfykyjy'''
x  -
 
z  �'gre'''z'''i (English)
 
'  '''h'''indi (the language Hindi)
 
''Comments, corrections and improvements are highly welcome :-) and - needed! :[[jbocre: -- [jbocre: .aulun.|.aulun.]]''
 
Needed urgently, folks; if I don't get what I need soon, I'm going to Berlitz. By soon, I mean end of November 2002. -- [[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]]

Revision as of 17:09, 4 November 2013

I just want to give it a try and start this chart with my - admittedly - poor knowledge of the language Hindi. I'm having available here a narrow vocabulary and some knowledge of Hindi phonology.

First, we'd have to decide which contrasts should match the Lojban voiced/unvoiced consonant pairs, since most Hindi consonants can be distinguished according voiced/unvoiced, aspirated/unaspirated, retroflex/'normal', which e.g. for the dental stops or labial plosives means:

d - dh - d(retro) - dh(retro) - t - th - t(retro) - th(retro)

b - bh - b(retro) - bh(retro) - p - ph - p(retro) - ph(retro)

etc.

The vowels are:

a, i, u, e, o - each coming in pairs: short-open (a, i, u) or moreorless long-moreorless closed (e, o). There are still two diphtongs ae-e and o-o with pretty different articulation according different local pronunciation. So what?

a rastr-bhasa (national language)

e dene (give)

i pahli (first)

o prajog (application), ho (of)

u puri tarah (fully, full manner/way)

y -

ai sthai prakriti (enduring nature)

au -

ei -

oi -

ia krijatmak (effective), jatha (namely)

ie lije (for)

ii -

io prajog (application)

iu -

ua -

ue -

ui -

uo -

uu -

b bharat (India) -there's no 'normal' b in my sample text, sorry!

c kisht (rate, instalment?)

d dene (give), dija/dije (given), hindi (Hindi)

f -

g agja-patra (laws)

j -

k sarkari (official)

l le legi (will take/occupy/replace)

m kram (system)

n nishcaj (decision)

p parivartan (conversion)

r rup (form)

s sthan (place, location), sath-sath (together with)

t tarah (manner, form, way)

v vikas (developement), patra-vjavahar (correspondence)

x -

z �'grezi (English)

' hindi (the language Hindi)

Comments, corrections and improvements are highly welcome :-) and - needed! :[[jbocre: -- [jbocre: .aulun.|.aulun.]]

Needed urgently, folks; if I don't get what I need soon, I'm going to Berlitz. By soon, I mean end of November 2002. -- nitcion

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