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{CODE(wrap="1]][[jbocre: 10:22|10:22]] <vensa> ma jdima lonu curmi doi tomoj
[[jbocre: 10:22|10:22]] <tomoj> is there a vague PA
[[jbocre: 10:22|10:22]] <selckiku> i don't mind "malgli", that's a fine way to say it, it just makes me wonder
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> selckiku: the bomb is about to go off :)
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> tomoj: ji'i
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <selckiku> huh, a vague pa, that's a cool idea, there isn't is there??
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> ji'i
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <tomoj> hmm
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <tomoj> the thing is, I don't even know the number
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <tomoj> nor whether it's typical
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> you can use {za'u}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <tomoj> I just know it's in the hundreds
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> or {su'o}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <selckiku> "ji'i" makes any PA a little vaguer, you can't use it on its own can you?
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <vensa> so {za'u panono}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> so I was thinking "XX no no"
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <vensa> selckiku: y not?
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <selckiku> i dunno, i'd just never seen it
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> well..
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <selckiku> what selma'o is zo ji'i anyway
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <selckiku> zo ji'i cmavo ma
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> 10000 is {za'u pa no no}, isn't it?
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> valsi: ji'i
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <valsi> ji'i = digit/number: approximately (default the typical value in this context) (number).
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <vensa> tomoj: you can try {xo paunai no no}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> it's PA
[[jbocre: 10:25|10:25]] <selckiku> ok then, i guess {li ji'i} is a pretty vague number then
[[jbocre: 10:26|10:26]] <vensa> selckiku: is {za'u panono} = "more than one hunderd" or "10000"?
[[jbocre: 10:26|10:26]] <vensa> valsi za'u
[[jbocre: 10:26|10:26]] <valsi> za'u = digit/number: greater than.
[[jbocre: 10:26|10:26]] <selckiku> 10000 is more than 100, sure
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> yeah but what is the meaning of the lojban?
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> oh wait
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> nm.
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> tomoj wasnt arguing with me
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[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> I was including "10000" as a referent of {za'u panono}
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <selckiku> it's a somewhat unusual meaning of za'upanono but it depends on the context
[[jbocre: 10:28|10:28]] <tomoj> I want X00 where X is a single digit 1-9
[[jbocre: 10:28|10:28]] <vensa> doi tomoj no'i xu do kakne lonu se pendo lo mlatu poi bartu
[[jbocre: 10:28|10:28]] <vensa> tomoj: then you need a regex :P
[[jbocre: 10:28|10:28]]  * ctino is going to try connecting with a real IRC client and will return soon
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> yay! citno
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> *Ctino
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[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <tomoj> hmm, is there enough cmavo space open to translate regex into lojban? :)
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> hah
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> valsi bo'o
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <valsi> boxfo = x1 is a sheet/foil/blanket [[jbocre: 2-dimensional shape/form flexible in 3 dimensions|2-dimensional shape/form flexible in 3 dimensions]] of material x2.
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> valsi no'o
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <valsi> no'o = digit/number: typical/average value.
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <selckiku> the cmavo space is rather busy, really
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[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> how about {no'o no no}?
[[jbocre: 10:30|10:30]] <vensa> if anything, it sounds hillarious{CODE}

Revision as of 16:42, 4 November 2013

{CODE(wrap="1]]10:22 <vensa> ma jdima lonu curmi doi tomoj 10:22 <tomoj> is there a vague PA 10:22 <selckiku> i don't mind "malgli", that's a fine way to say it, it just makes me wonder 10:23 <vensa> selckiku: the bomb is about to go off :) 10:23 <vensa> tomoj: ji'i 10:23 <selckiku> huh, a vague pa, that's a cool idea, there isn't is there?? 10:23 <vensa> ji'i 10:23 <tomoj> hmm 10:23 <tomoj> the thing is, I don't even know the number 10:23 <tomoj> nor whether it's typical 10:23 <vensa> you can use {za'u} 10:23 <tomoj> I just know it's in the hundreds 10:23 <vensa> or {su'o} 10:23 <selckiku> "ji'i" makes any PA a little vaguer, you can't use it on its own can you? 10:24 <vensa> so {za'u panono} 10:24 <tomoj> so I was thinking "XX no no" 10:24 <vensa> selckiku: y not? 10:24 <selckiku> i dunno, i'd just never seen it 10:24 <tomoj> well.. 10:24 <selckiku> what selma'o is zo ji'i anyway 10:24 <selckiku> zo ji'i cmavo ma 10:24 <tomoj> 10000 is {za'u pa no no}, isn't it? 10:24 <tomoj> valsi: ji'i 10:24 <valsi> ji'i = digit/number: approximately (default the typical value in this context) (number). 10:24 <vensa> tomoj: you can try {xo paunai no no} 10:24 <tomoj> it's PA 10:25 <selckiku> ok then, i guess {li ji'i} is a pretty vague number then 10:26 <vensa> selckiku: is {za'u panono} = "more than one hunderd" or "10000"? 10:26 <vensa> valsi za'u 10:26 <valsi> za'u = digit/number: greater than. 10:26 <selckiku> 10000 is more than 100, sure 10:27 <vensa> yeah but what is the meaning of the lojban? 10:27 <vensa> oh wait 10:27 <vensa> nm. 10:27 <vensa> tomoj wasnt arguing with me 10:27 == bortzmeyer ~bortzmeye@batilda.nic.fr has quit Ping timeout: 252 seconds 10:27 <vensa> I was including "10000" as a referent of {za'u panono} 10:27 <selckiku> it's a somewhat unusual meaning of za'upanono but it depends on the context 10:28 <tomoj> I want X00 where X is a single digit 1-9 10:28 <vensa> doi tomoj no'i xu do kakne lonu se pendo lo mlatu poi bartu 10:28 <vensa> tomoj: then you need a regex :P 10:28 * ctino is going to try connecting with a real IRC client and will return soon 10:29 <vensa> yay! citno 10:29 <vensa> *Ctino 10:29 == ctino 1806f0d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.6.240.210 has quit 10:29 <tomoj> hmm, is there enough cmavo space open to translate regex into lojban? :) 10:29 <vensa> hah 10:29 <vensa> valsi bo'o 10:29 <valsi> boxfo = x1 is a sheet/foil/blanket 2-dimensional shape/form flexible in 3 dimensions of material x2. 10:29 <vensa> valsi no'o 10:29 <valsi> no'o = digit/number: typical/average value. 10:29 <selckiku> the cmavo space is rather busy, really 10:29 == donri ~dag@unaffiliated/dagodenhall has joined #lojban 10:29 == gunkamanti ~sarefo@213.83.32.130 has joined #lojban 10:29 <vensa> how about {no'o no no}? 10:30 <vensa> if anything, it sounds hillarious{CODE}