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The base of a number string should be base-ten, unless:
包括的なロジバンの教科書は [[the Complete Lojban Language]]
[http://ponjbogri.github.com/cll-ja/ （日本語訳）]しかないのだが、そこで取り上げられている話題の順序は、初心者が最初に出会う教科書としては、いささか非論理的である。このことは、 [[Lojban IRC|IRC の #lojban チャンネル]] で議論を引き起こし、もっと初心者に親切な順序は以下のようなものだろうということになった。


* explicitly specified by ju'u, AND/OR
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/1/1/ chapter 1] （法律上の記述、読み飛ばして良い）
* the string contains hexadecimal digits, in which case it is defaults to hexadecimal, AND/OR
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/2/1/ chapter 2]


* overridden by context
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/3/1/ chapter 3]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/4/1/ chapter 4]


It should not be necessary to state this in the cmavo definitions here, but rather in the definition for ju'u.
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/13/1/ chapter 13.1-13.10]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/6/1/ chapter 6] （6.2 [[The Dot Side|.の付け方]] / [[dotside or Not?]] と 6.2-6.9 [[文法改良案|xorlo]] / [[How to use xorlo]] に用心）


I assume that it is unnecessary to formally define the mechanism of big-endian positional notation. At any rate, I am unable to do so myself.
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/7/1/ chapter 7]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/5/1/ chapter 5.1-5.7]


== Usage for decimal digits ==
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/17/1/ chapter 17.1-17.12]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/19/1/ chapter 19] （19.13 [[BPFK Section: Erasures|消去シマヴォ cmavo]] に用心）


''cacra li revo .a li pare''<br />
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/13/11/ chapter 13.11-13.16]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/11/1/ chapter 11]


It lasts for 24 or 12 hours.
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/8/1/ chapter 8]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/9/1/ chapter 9]


''mi tatpi .i li paci vi tcika''<br />
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/10/1/ chapter 10]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/14/1/ chapter 14]


I'm tired. It's 13 o'clock here.
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/15/1/ chapter 15]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/5/10/ chapter 5.10-5.20]


''li paze pi'e ci''<br />
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/12/1/ chapter 12]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/16/1/ chapter 16] （論理量化子、難しい内容）


17:03
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/17/13/ chapter 17.13-17.20]
* 「まったく不要」 [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/18/1/ chapter 18] （ロジバンから mekso を無くしても良いくらい）


== Usage for hexadecimal digits ==
* 「役に立つ」 [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/20/ chapter 20] （セルマホ selma'o リスト）
* 「誰もが見ないといけないものではない」 [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/21/1/ chapter 21] （形式文法）


''li dau re ci vai vai vai vai vai''<br />
「用心」とか「難しい」と書いたところは割り引いて読むべし。 [[Lojban IRC|Lojban の IRC]] でいくらか時間を費やしていれば、きっとわかってくるだろう。 IRC の #ckule チャンネルや、発音については Mumble, Ventrilo, Skype で、ロジバニストによる授業があることは言うまでもない。
 
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== Proposed definitions ==
 
;no: Digit 0. Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings are in base 10 (ten), unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;pa: Digit 1. Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings are in base 10 (ten), unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;re: Digit 2. Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings are in base 10 (ten), unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;ci: Digit 3. Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings are in base 10 (ten), unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;vo: Digit 4. Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings are in base 10 (ten), unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;mu: Digit 5. Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings are in base 10 (ten), unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;xa: Digit 6. Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings are in base 10 (ten), unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;ze: Digit 7. Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings are in base 10 (ten), unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;bi: Digit 8. Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings are in base 10 (ten), unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;so: Digit 9. Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings are in base 10 (ten), unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;dau: Hexadecimal digit A (decimal 10). Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings that contain this digit are hexadecimal, unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;fei: Hexadecimal digit B (decimal 11). Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings that contain this digit are hexadecimal, unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;gai: Hexadecimal digit C (decimal 12). Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings that contain this digit are hexadecimal, unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;jau: Hexadecimal digit D (decimal 13). Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings that contain this digit are hexadecimal, unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;rei: Hexadecimal digit E (decimal 14). Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings that contain this digit are hexadecimal, unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
;vai: Hexadecimal digit F (decimal 15). Used in Lojban number strings, which are big endian. Number strings that contain this digit are hexadecimal, unless overridden grammatically. Context may override this default, but relying on context in this fashion risks misunderstanding.
 
== Proposed keywords ==
 
;no: 0. zero. no ; none. none. nought. nil.
 
;pa: 1. one. unity ; number.
 
;re: 2. two.
 
;ci: 3. three.
 
;vo: 4. four.
 
;mu: 5. five.
 
;xa: 6. six.
 
;ze: 7. seven.
 
;bi: 8. eight.
 
;so: 9. nine.
 
;dau: A ; hexadecimal. ten ; hexadecimal.
 
;fei: B ; hexadecimal. eleven ; hexadecimal.
 
;gai: C ; hexadecimal. twelve ; hexadecimal.
 
;jau: D ; hexadecimal. thirteen ; hexadecimal.
 
;rei: E ; hexadecimal. fourteen ; hexadecimal.
 
;vai: F ; hexadecimal. fifteen ; hexadecimal
 
== Interactions with other sections ==
 
The sections with ju'u should state that digits are in base-ten, unless they contain at least one hexadecimal digit, or they are explicitly specified by ju'u, or the base is overriden by context.
 
== Impact ==
 
None intended.

Latest revision as of 08:55, 30 March 2015

包括的なロジバンの教科書は the Complete Lojban Language （日本語訳）しかないのだが、そこで取り上げられている話題の順序は、初心者が最初に出会う教科書としては、いささか非論理的である。このことは、 IRC の #lojban チャンネル で議論を引き起こし、もっと初心者に親切な順序は以下のようなものだろうということになった。

  • 「役に立つ」 chapter 20 （セルマホ selma'o リスト）
  • 「誰もが見ないといけないものではない」 chapter 21 （形式文法）

「用心」とか「難しい」と書いたところは割り引いて読むべし。 Lojban の IRC でいくらか時間を費やしていれば、きっとわかってくるだろう。 IRC の #ckule チャンネルや、発音については Mumble, Ventrilo, Skype で、ロジバニストによる授業があることは言うまでもない。

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