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ti'e xamgu fa lo nunzga
You expect to be able to use ''pu'' in place of ''cu'' in front of a selbri to close the front sumti - right?  Wrong - if it's an abstraction!


be loi mu'e mulno kazycukla
''lenu mi klama pu vajni'' is a sumti with parse:


kei po le lunra seljvinu
''({le < [[jbocre: nu (mi {klama < [jbocre: pu KU|pu KU]] VAU>}) KEI] vajni> KU} VAU)''


.i ku'i mi salci loiri mu'e traji
I don't. Sounds like someone mislearned that tenses mark the start of selbri.


kazycinla keikuku seba'i
To be fair, the book says (10.1, p. 216) ''The placement of a tense construct within a Lojban bridi is easy: right before the selbri. It goes immediately after the "cu", '''and can in fact always replace the "cu"'''.'' Of course, it then goes on to say ''(although in very complex sentences the rules for eliding terminators may be changed as a result).''
 
.i simsa fa mi ri leka manku kei
 
po'a .e lemi kazymipri .e
 
.a'o le kazvli be fi da poi nabona'e
 
terpe'u po'a fe le mujykra
 
.i ze'i loi mu'e traji kazycinla
 
kei kuku po'i le lunra
 
cu binxo le pamei zgana be vo'a
 
.i mi go'i .ije ku'i .oi nani'i
 
ku mi po'a se'o ru'i zgana lemi
 
nunynarza'i ji'a
 
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Revision as of 17:06, 4 November 2013

You expect to be able to use pu in place of cu in front of a selbri to close the front sumti - right? Wrong - if it's an abstraction!

lenu mi klama pu vajni is a sumti with parse:

({le < [[jbocre: nu (mi {klama < [jbocre: pu KU|pu KU]] VAU>}) KEI] vajni> KU} VAU)

I don't. Sounds like someone mislearned that tenses mark the start of selbri.

To be fair, the book says (10.1, p. 216) The placement of a tense construct within a Lojban bridi is easy: right before the selbri. It goes immediately after the "cu", and can in fact always replace the "cu". Of course, it then goes on to say (although in very complex sentences the rules for eliding terminators may be changed as a result).