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* According to another [https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Stub:_Grammatical_aspects view] {xo'u} is not needed [[User:Gleki|mu'o mi'e La Gleki]] ([[User talk:Gleki|talk]]) 22:19, 28 December 2015 (PST) | * According to another [https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Stub:_Grammatical_aspects view] {xo'u} is not needed [[User:Gleki|mu'o mi'e La Gleki]] ([[User talk:Gleki|talk]]) 22:19, 28 December 2015 (PST) | ||
** Gleki, I'm not sure I understood all the examples in that table, and {xo'u} isn't even mentioned. Are you referring to {mo'unai} or something? If there's a way to talk about the ending point of a process, I see no reason why there shouldn't be a way to talk about the beginning point. And if {mo'u} is going to be in the chart, then it seems to me that whatever the proper opposite of {mo'u} is should be included too. --[[User:Niccolo|Niccolo]] ([[User talk:Niccolo|talk]]) 15:11, 3 January 2016 (PST) | ** Gleki, I'm not sure I understood all the examples in that table, and {xo'u} isn't even mentioned. Are you referring to {mo'unai} or something? If there's a way to talk about the ending point of a process, I see no reason why there shouldn't be a way to talk about the beginning point. And if {mo'u} is going to be in the chart, then it seems to me that whatever the proper opposite of {mo'u} is should be included too. --[[User:Niccolo|Niccolo]] ([[User talk:Niccolo|talk]]) 15:11, 3 January 2016 (PST) | ||
*** {xo'u} isn't mentioned there because it's simply not needed. Look at the last table on that page. co'a/ca'o/co'u/mo'u create the complete set. [[User:Gleki|mu'o mi'e La Gleki]] ([[User talk:Gleki|talk]]) 00:32, 4 January 2016 (PST) | |||
== Lesson 12 == | == Lesson 12 == | ||
Why are we given a way to give an affirmative response to a yes/no question, but not a way to give a negative response? I don't think it's too hard to just add {na} or {na'e}. We could say that we'll go more into negating selbri and bridi later, or we could reorder the lessons so that we read about negation first. But teaching yes/no questions and only talking about "yes" answers seems weird, confusing, and unhelpful. --[[User:Niccolo|Niccolo]] ([[User talk:Niccolo|talk]]) 15:11, 3 January 2016 (PST) | Why are we given a way to give an affirmative response to a yes/no question, but not a way to give a negative response? I don't think it's too hard to just add {na} or {na'e}. We could say that we'll go more into negating selbri and bridi later, or we could reorder the lessons so that we read about negation first. But teaching yes/no questions and only talking about "yes" answers seems weird, confusing, and unhelpful. --[[User:Niccolo|Niccolo]] ([[User talk:Niccolo|talk]]) 15:11, 3 January 2016 (PST) | ||
*indeed[[User:Gleki|mu'o mi'e La Gleki]] ([[User talk:Gleki|talk]]) 00:32, 4 January 2016 (PST) | |||
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Lesson 11
The event contours chart in section 11 is missing {xo'u}. --Niccolo (talk) 16:38, 28 December 2015 (PST)
- According to another view {xo'u} is not needed mu'o mi'e La Gleki (talk) 22:19, 28 December 2015 (PST)
- Gleki, I'm not sure I understood all the examples in that table, and {xo'u} isn't even mentioned. Are you referring to {mo'unai} or something? If there's a way to talk about the ending point of a process, I see no reason why there shouldn't be a way to talk about the beginning point. And if {mo'u} is going to be in the chart, then it seems to me that whatever the proper opposite of {mo'u} is should be included too. --Niccolo (talk) 15:11, 3 January 2016 (PST)
- {xo'u} isn't mentioned there because it's simply not needed. Look at the last table on that page. co'a/ca'o/co'u/mo'u create the complete set. mu'o mi'e La Gleki (talk) 00:32, 4 January 2016 (PST)
- Gleki, I'm not sure I understood all the examples in that table, and {xo'u} isn't even mentioned. Are you referring to {mo'unai} or something? If there's a way to talk about the ending point of a process, I see no reason why there shouldn't be a way to talk about the beginning point. And if {mo'u} is going to be in the chart, then it seems to me that whatever the proper opposite of {mo'u} is should be included too. --Niccolo (talk) 15:11, 3 January 2016 (PST)
Lesson 12
Why are we given a way to give an affirmative response to a yes/no question, but not a way to give a negative response? I don't think it's too hard to just add {na} or {na'e}. We could say that we'll go more into negating selbri and bridi later, or we could reorder the lessons so that we read about negation first. But teaching yes/no questions and only talking about "yes" answers seems weird, confusing, and unhelpful. --Niccolo (talk) 15:11, 3 January 2016 (PST)
- indeedmu'o mi'e La Gleki (talk) 00:32, 4 January 2016 (PST)