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==  Minutes of the 2000 Annual Meeting of the Members of [[jbocre: The Logical Language Group|The Logical Language Group]], Inc. ==
Magic: The Gathering "dialect" of Lojban


The twelfth Annual Meeting of the Members of [[jbocre: The Logical Language Group|The Logical Language Group]], Inc. was called to order on August 6, 2000 at 11:58 AM EDT.
||.i'e      |      That move was ok; no counter; no instants abilities or effects


Shawn Lasseter was appointed Sergeant-at-Arms to gather/inform members of beginning of meeting.
.i'ecu'i    |    Still considering the movie; Wait.


Non-members in attendance at the annual meeting were:
.i'enai    |    I disapprove; Something does something; I counter; I add


* Ethan Fremen voted in as member during the meeting
.ie          |  I agree
* Jake Berglund voted in as member during the meeting


* David Crowell voted in as member during the meeting
.ienai      |   I disagree
* [[User:xod|xod]]


* Olivia
je'e    |      I understand/heard


Roll call was taken of the members.
je'enai  |      I didn't understand/hear


Members attending (14) were:
ju'i        |    Yo!/You!/Hey!/Attention.


* Dave Barton
ju'inai      |  Never mind.
* Gary Burgess


* [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]]
ke'o          | Please repeat
* John Hodges


* Shawn Lasseter
ke'u          | Re-iterating
* [[jbocre: Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]]


* Robert (Bob) LeChevalier
mu'o          | Turn/phase over
* Keith Lynch


* Alex (Alexandra) Miles-Lasseter
mu'onai        | Still in phase/turn
* [[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]]


* Paul Francis O'Sullivan
doi <name>  |   Listen <name>
* [[User:Mark Shoulson|Mark Shoulson]]


* David Twery
re'i      |      Ready to receive
* Tommy Whitlock


Members "present" (5) by proxy:
re'inai  |      Not ready to receive


* Athelstan proxy to [[jbocre: Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]], with instructions to abstain on all votes
roda      |     Everything
* [[User:John Clifford|John Clifford]] proxy to [[jbocre: Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]]


* Guy Garnett proxy to [[jbocre: Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]]
zo'o        |   Jokingly
* [[User:xorxes|Jorge Llambias]] proxy to [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]]


* Veijo Vilva proxy to [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]]
zo'onai      |   Seriously


Members not in attendance (3) were:
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* Karen Stein
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* Colin Fine


* David Young
zelxrani  |      x1 damage is dealt to x2 by x3 in property x4 (may be


No proper notice of meeting by Secretary/Treasurer was given (per Article 3, Section 4 of the Bylaws)., therefore no bylaw amendments may be made.
something other then health)


Reading of the Minutes:
dabybradi    |    x1 is used to attack x2 this attack phase


* MOVED: To waive reading of minutes. - PASSED.
bandu        |  x1 defends x2 from (creature) x3


Report of officers: Secretary/Treasurer, by President:
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Organization delinquent 2 quarters in state sales tax ($30 penalty)
I tried to create a list more of what's useful, plus the gismu/lujvo have been slightly restricted in meaning or changed. Please forgive me. However I am relucent to update this more myself as I rarely play these days.


Book orders caught up
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Other orders not done
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Estimated 5-6 thousand in liability for balances.
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Expenses:
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* CAIS (internet site) account $800 per year
le makfa poi jmaji | Magic: the Gathering
* Phone $30-35 per month


* Visa/Mastercard/Amex service $30 per month, plus extra charges
skari  | colors:
* $1550 so far


* Income: net negative
xunre | red 


** Repaid $2000 of book loan (to LeChevalier balance)
xekri |black 
** $3000 left on book loan


** $2000 in bank
blabi | white


Book Sales: 322
blanu | blue


Report of officers - President:
crino | green


Settled with printer:  Asked $4400, settled with offer of $2400.
se cau lo ka skari | colorless


* Possible options for handling of people with bad books:
kardylei | card types:
* PDF of book for download


* PDF of bad page
tumla | lands:
* Send good book


There was a suggestion that we get the bad book back so we can insert a print of the good page and use it to send to those of limited funds who wanted the book.
fadytu'a | basic lands:


Commendation to Yvgeny Sklyanin for building a net community in Russia, including translating stuff into Russian and setting up a Russian language web site.  (Here it was also noted that [[jbocre: x|xod]] had set up a lojban web ring and is encouraging us to get the lojban web page set up).
ricfoi | forest


Production of [[jbocre: Mini-D|Dictionary]]:  not advanced.
sastu'a | plains


Note that World Con is in Philadelphia next year.
cimtu'a | swamp


Project on new words (lujvo): We would like to find a way to get people to create/check even just the English keywords for the words on the list of new words (5000-10000).
daplu | island


Report of Committees:
cmana | mountain


* Level 0 package committee (1998,99: [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]], chairman; David Twery; Tommy Whitlock; [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]]):Nothing done.Internet site committee (1999: David Twery, Chairman; Shawn Lasseter; [[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]]):Nothing done.
mivyselzba | creature
* Finance (aka Poverty) Committee:  Nothing done because no extra moneys. John Hodges and [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]] have, separate from this committee, have 5-6 copies reserved for indigent.


* On-line ordering (1997: [[User:Mark Shoulson|Mark Shoulson]], chairman):no change reported.
mufri'a | instant
* WorldCon committee (1998: Keith Lynch, chairman; David Bowen; [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]]):nothing to report.Meeting notice (1994: [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]] and [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]]):no report.


*Grant proposal: (1996: Dave Barton, chairman; Dave Twery; and [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]]):no report.Streamlining meeting procedures (1999: [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]], chairman):no report.
mafyga'i | enchantment | (thanks to my eight year old for this suggestion)


Consideration of new members or removal of old members:
rutni | artifact


Discussion: concern about too much emphasis given to the local people who can come to Logfest, and not enough consideration of foreign contributors.  Led to discussion of what it means to be a member and how it would affect ability to do bylaw amendments and other business at the annual meeting.
mafseltro | sorcery


* MOVED: That all 3 prospective members (Ethan Fremen, Jake Berglund, David Crowell) be accepted as new members. - PASSED.
ranmi | legendary
* MOVED: To offer membership to Ivan Derzhanski. - PASSED.


* MOVED: To offer membership to Yvgeny Sklyanin. - PASSED.
cabra | equipment
* MOVED: To offer membership to Robin Turner and [[jbocre: Arnt Johansen|Arnt Johansen]]. - PASSED.


* MOVED:  To offer membership to [[jbocre: And Rosta|And Rosta]]. - PASSED as AMENDED.
mafca'u | aura
* FRIENDLY AMENDMENT: That [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]] be among the drafters of the offer - ACCEPTED.


Election of Board of Directors:
xaksu | tap


Current Board includes: David Barton, [[User:John Clifford|John Clifford]], [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]], [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]], [[jbocre: Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]], Alex Miles-Lasseter, David Twery. Maximum of 7 allowed.
poi selxaksu | tapped


Discussion of what it is to be on the Board of Directors.
poi nalselxaksu | untapped


* MOVED: To elect [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]], Shawn Lasseter, [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]], [[jbocre: Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]], Alex Miles-Lasseter and David Twery - PASSED as AMENDED.
selsutra | fast effect
* MOVED: Offer Board membership to [[User:John Clifford|John Clifford]] as well - PASSED.


* MOVED: To thank David Barton for his participation on the board. - PASSED.
selka'e | ability


Old/Unfinished Business:
selri'a selka'e | triggered ability


Marketing and Promotion: Put off plan for future year [[jbocre: except for World Con|except for World Con]], though Ethan had volunteered to be put in charge of contact form for Web.
rinka selka'e | activated ability


New Business:
daspo | destroy


* MOVED: To recess for 20 minutes for lunch break - PASSED. (Recessed until 1:15)
teryre'o | target


Discussion of [[jbocre: James Cook Brown|James Cook Brown]]'s death and relationship with [[The Loglan Institute|The Loglan Institute]] (TLI)
mivyvi'u | life loss


* MOVED: As an organization, to extend our regrets at his death, our condolences to his family, and our appreciation for his contributions to the logical language community. - PASSED
makfa | spell
* MOVED: To adopt a formal position welcoming members of TLI or any community of logical language, and affirm a position in favor of rapprochement with TLI at such time as they ... - AMENDED


Discussion: This may be seen as insulting.  Discussion of importance of rapprochement, including reading from proxy comments.
maflivla | manna


* MOVED: To divide the motion into:
maflilsro | manna pool


* Welcome members, and
karda | card
* [[jbocre: LLG|LLG]] position on TLI - PASSED. - PASSED


* MOTION: To adopt a formal position welcoming members of TLI or any community of logical language - FAILED, despite friendly amendment
selklo | zones:
* FRIENDLY AMENDMENT: "reaffirm commitment to" - ACCEPTED


* MOTION: To affirm a position in favor of rapprochement with TLI at such time as they... - WITHDRAWN
mrofoi | graveyard


Ethan presented a proposal: an offer of real-time on-line credit-card processing and on-demand publishing (printed and sent out) as a donation.
mafsro | library


Much discussion: mechanics, check processing, etc.
mafpoi | spell  stack


Initially to be fulfillment of orders for the book ([[jbocre: The Complete Lojban Language he Complete Grammar|(The Complete Lojban Language he Complete Grammar]]), so [[jbocre: LLG|LLG]] wouldn't need credit card processing.  Trail for 1 month, then talk to Board.
bremakfa | hand


Possibly also web hosting:  $15/year to maintain name.
selplika'e selklo | in-play zone


* MOVED: To accept the proposal in principal, subject to ratification by the Board of written proposal in 1 month. - PASSED as AMENDED.
kelselvi'u selklo | removed-from-game zone
* FRIENDLY AMENDMENT: "with gratitude and great thanks" - PASSED.


(Note: at this point, [[User:Mark Shoulson|Mark Shoulson]] leaves, proxy to Nick)
kardysro | sideboard


Talk of future ideas: Live, interactive conferencing for meetings; farming out [[jbocre: Mini-D|Dictionary]] and work-proposal via web-form.
ka'e vofli | flying


Hartmut Pilch asked again about his proposal for use in patents:
bajgre | trample


* He'd like a page on the site promoting his proposal
mrofanta | regenerate
* He's gotten support in that France has proposed it.


* Bob's suggestions: a sample translation or perhaps direct support
sutygunta | first strike


(Note: at this point, Tommy Whitlock leaves, proxy to [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]])
to tumla toi pagre | (land)walk


* MOVED: That [[jbocre: LLG|LLG]] say that we fully support and encourage use of Lojban in the European patent system - PASSED.
ka ce'u se bandu fi lo nu  lo blanu cu co'e | protection from blue


Discussion of priority of resumption of [[jbocre: Ju'i Lobypli|Ju'i Lobypli]] and [[jbocre: Lojbo Karni|Lojbo Karni]] (JL and LK)
badypre | defender


* MOVED: That priority of JL/LK resumption be moved up, subject to discretion of Board - PASSED.
vi'ozga | vigilance


Policy on bug in grammar (formal grammar disagrees with write-up):
relromgunta | doublestrike


* MOVED: That the grammar be changed to match the prose - PASSED.
selte'a | fear
* MOVED: That the question of 20001 WorldCon be delegate to the Board - PASSED.


* MOVED: To adjourn meeting. - PASSED.
sutmakfa | flash


The twelfth Annual Meeting of the Members of The Logical Language Group, Inc. was adjourned at approximately 2:50 PM EDT.
bredi | haste


I certify that the above motions were presented to all members present for discussion and approval, and that all motions were approved as noted.  I further certify that these minutes are an accurate representation of the twelfth Annual Meeting of the Members of [[jbocre: The Logical Language Group|The Logical Language Group]], Inc.
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[[jbocre: Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]]
 
Secretary/Treasurer

Revision as of 17:04, 4 November 2013

Magic: The Gathering "dialect" of Lojban

||.i'e | That move was ok; no counter; no instants abilities or effects

.i'ecu'i | Still considering the movie; Wait.

.i'enai | I disapprove; Something does something; I counter; I add

.ie | I agree

.ienai | I disagree

je'e | I understand/heard

je'enai | I didn't understand/hear

ju'i | Yo!/You!/Hey!/Attention.

ju'inai | Never mind.

ke'o | Please repeat

ke'u | Re-iterating

mu'o | Turn/phase over

mu'onai | Still in phase/turn

doi <name> | Listen <name>

re'i | Ready to receive

re'inai | Not ready to receive

roda | Everything

zo'o | Jokingly

zo'onai | Seriously

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zelxrani | x1 damage is dealt to x2 by x3 in property x4 (may be

something other then health)

dabybradi | x1 is used to attack x2 this attack phase

bandu | x1 defends x2 from (creature) x3

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I tried to create a list more of what's useful, plus the gismu/lujvo have been slightly restricted in meaning or changed. Please forgive me. However I am relucent to update this more myself as I rarely play these days.

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le makfa poi jmaji | Magic: the Gathering

skari | colors:

xunre | red

xekri |black

blabi | white

blanu | blue

crino | green

se cau lo ka skari | colorless

kardylei | card types:

tumla | lands:

fadytu'a | basic lands:

ricfoi | forest

sastu'a | plains

cimtu'a | swamp

daplu | island

cmana | mountain

mivyselzba | creature

mufri'a | instant

mafyga'i | enchantment | (thanks to my eight year old for this suggestion)

rutni | artifact

mafseltro | sorcery

ranmi | legendary

cabra | equipment

mafca'u | aura

xaksu | tap

poi selxaksu | tapped

poi nalselxaksu | untapped

selsutra | fast effect

selka'e | ability

selri'a selka'e | triggered ability

rinka selka'e | activated ability

daspo | destroy

teryre'o | target

mivyvi'u | life loss

makfa | spell

maflivla | manna

maflilsro | manna pool

karda | card

selklo | zones:

mrofoi | graveyard

mafsro | library

mafpoi | spell stack

bremakfa | hand

selplika'e selklo | in-play zone

kelselvi'u selklo | removed-from-game zone

kardysro | sideboard

ka'e vofli | flying

bajgre | trample

mrofanta | regenerate

sutygunta | first strike

to tumla toi pagre | (land)walk

ka ce'u se bandu fi lo nu lo blanu cu co'e | protection from blue

badypre | defender

vi'ozga | vigilance

relromgunta | doublestrike

selte'a | fear

sutmakfa | flash

bredi | haste

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