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''manku kacma''? ''manku kumfa''?
Here are the default quantifiers for various kinds of sumti. See [[the Book|the Book]], chapter 6.


The words mean literally "dark room", but although a darkroom is a dark room, it is not a camera obscura.
==== Descriptions ====


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;le:ro le su'o -- all of the at-least-one described as


''kacma'': x1 is a camera/photographic equipment recording illumination type x2 images to media x3
;lo:su'o lo ro -- at least one of all of those which really are


A camera obscura is a camera which, by direct optical means, displays its image rather than recording it. One translation is ''kacma fi noda'' (though some people might suppose you'd left your film at home).
;la:ro la su'o -- all of the at least one named


*That should be ''kacma fi zi'o''; anything (such as a tree) which has nothing to record images on ''kacma fi noda''. --[[jbocre: Pierre Abbat|phma]]
;lei:pisu'o lei su'o -- some part of the mass of the at-least-one described as
** The [[jbocre: discussion of kacma fi noda|discussion of kacma fi noda]] became somewhat extended.


* The ''[[jbocre: lujvo|lujvo]]'' for ''kacma fi zi'o'' is ''zilcibykacma''
;loi:pisu'o loi ro -- some part of the mass of all those that really are


We don't need to make up Lojban words to exactly match English words. A camera obscura where you walk in and the image is projected on a wall could be a ''kumfa kacma'' "room camera" or a ''kacma je kumfa'' "camera and room". The kind used by artists to help in sketching could be a "drawing aid", and so on. There are many ways to say any given thing; choose one that says what you want.
;lai:pisu'o lai su'o -- some part of the mass of the at-least-one named


''mi'e [[jbocre: jezrax|jezrax]]''
;le'i:piro le'i su'o -- the whole of the set of the at-least-one described as
 
;lo'i:piro lo'i ro -- the whole of the set of all those that really are
 
;la'i:piro la'i su'o -- the whole of the set of the at-least-one named
 
;le'e:ro le'e su'o -- all the stereotypes of the at-least-one described as
 
;lo'e:su'o lo'e ro -- at least one of the types of all those that really are
 
==== Other sumti ====
 
mi-series: ro or pisu'o
 
da-series: su'o when bound, ro thereafter
 
di'u-series: su'o
 
ma: su'o
 
quotations: su'o
 
selma'o LI: su'o
 
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more info on gadri at [[jbocre: gadri|gadri]].

Revision as of 16:46, 4 November 2013

Here are the default quantifiers for various kinds of sumti. See the Book, chapter 6.

Descriptions

le
ro le su'o -- all of the at-least-one described as
lo
su'o lo ro -- at least one of all of those which really are
la
ro la su'o -- all of the at least one named
lei
pisu'o lei su'o -- some part of the mass of the at-least-one described as
loi
pisu'o loi ro -- some part of the mass of all those that really are
lai
pisu'o lai su'o -- some part of the mass of the at-least-one named
le'i
piro le'i su'o -- the whole of the set of the at-least-one described as
lo'i
piro lo'i ro -- the whole of the set of all those that really are
la'i
piro la'i su'o -- the whole of the set of the at-least-one named
le'e
ro le'e su'o -- all the stereotypes of the at-least-one described as
lo'e
su'o lo'e ro -- at least one of the types of all those that really are

Other sumti

mi-series: ro or pisu'o

da-series: su'o when bound, ro thereafter

di'u-series: su'o

ma: su'o

quotations: su'o

selma'o LI: su'o


more info on gadri at gadri.