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<div style="text-align: right;">'''[[zantufa/jbo|banjubu'o]] / [[zantufa/fr|français]] / [[zantufa/ja|日本語]] / [[zantufa/en|English]]'''</div>
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== What is Zantufa? ==
== What is Zantufa? ==
* '''[http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-0.9999.html Zantufa]''' is one of parsers of texts in Lojban.
* '''[http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.html Zantufa]''' is one of parsers of texts in Lojban.
* Zantufa is based on an unofficial but beautiful and simple grammar aiming at impartiality according to [[la guskant|Guskant]].
* Zantufa is based on an unofficial but beautiful and simple grammar aiming at impartiality according to [[la guskant|Guskant]].


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== How is Zantufa related to the other variations of Lojban? ==
== How is Zantufa related to the other variations of Lojban? ==
* [http://www.lojban.org/jboski/ Jbofi'e], [http://camxes.lojban.org/ Camxes] and [http://masatohagiwara.net/camxes.js/ Camxes of Masato Hagiwara] are ancestors of Zantufa.
* [http://www.lojban.org/jboski/ Jbofi'e], [http://camxes.lojban.org/ Camxes] and [http://masatohagiwara.net/camxes.js/ Camxes of Masato Hagiwara] are ancestors of Zantufa.
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes.html Ilmentufa camxes] is mother of Zantufa.
* [http://lojban.github.io/ilmentufa/camxes.html Ilmentufa camxes] is mother of Zantufa.
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes-exp.html Ilmentufa experimental] for [[La Bangu]] as well as [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/altatufa-stodi.html la altatufa] is sister/brother and rival in grammar of Zantufa.
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20151127105727/http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes-exp.html Ilmentufa experimental]<ref name="ilmentufa">[https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/bWxgku3XriY/q-kdcFO-DQAJ The source of Ilmentufa was changed] to [http://lojban.github.io/ilmentufa/ what cannot be put under the power of the dictator] after Guskant revealed to the members of lojban mailing list [https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/jGRYIH6EdSA/MatpQ3S5DQAJ the detail] of dictatorship of [[la gleki|Gleki]]. Gleki explained however that the reason was unstability of "vrici" server, not remorse of his own dictatorship. Here is the evidence that is an extract of the archives of IRC #lojban channel: <br />--- Day changed Tue Feb 02 2016<br />12:45 &lt; gleki&gt; Ilmen: lo se benji be mi cu srana i sa'u la camxes bu'u la vrici zo'u na mutce zabna i la vrici ta'e co'u akti </ref> for [https://web.archive.org/web/20151031175123/https://mw.lojban.org/papri/La_Bangu La Bangu] as well as [http://archive.is/lCJ7t Altatufa] is sister/brother and rival in grammar of Zantufa.
* [https://skami2.iocikun.jp/lojban/zasniGerna Iocixes] with [https://skami2.iocikun.jp/lojban/zasniGernaPeg the grammar] based on [[zasni gerna cenba vreji|the temporary grammar]] with [[MEX grammar proposal]] by Xorxes is professor of Zantufa.
* [https://skami2.iocikun.jp/lojban/zasniGerna Iocixes] with [https://skami2.iocikun.jp/lojban/zasniGernaPeg the grammar] based on [[zasni gerna cenba vreji|the temporary grammar]] with [[MEX grammar proposal]] by Xorxes is professor of Zantufa.
* Zantufa is kind to [[ce ki tau jau|Cekitaujaus]], and will adopt it as one of the variations of Zantufa.
* Zantufa is kind to [[ce ki tau jau|Cekitaujaus]], and will adopt it as one of the variations of Zantufa.


== What is expected? ==
== What is expected? ==
It is expected that people will leave [[La Bangu]] and live in a good grammar. Good luck to Zantufa!  
It is expected that people will leave the grammar explained by [https://web.archive.org/web/20151031175123/https://mw.lojban.org/papri/La_Bangu La Bangu] and live in a good grammar. Good luck to Zantufa!  


== Almost completed ==
== Completed ==
What Guskant desired is almost completed by [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-0.9.html Zantufa_0.9].
What Guskant desired is almost completed by [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.html Zantufa_1].


There rest only removing bugs and adding new cmavo of existing selma'o.
There rest only removing bugs and adding new cmavo of existing selma'o.
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Please inform [[User talk:Guskant|Guskant]] if you find any bugs or problems.
Please inform [[User talk:Guskant|Guskant]] if you find any bugs or problems.


Here is a list of characteristiques of [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-0.9.html Zantufa_0.9]. However, [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes-exp.html Ilmentufa experimental] or [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/mahantufa/altatufa.html Altatufa] take some of the following characteristics into their own grammar without notice, and then those parts becomes not the characteristics of Zantufa only.
The principles of selection of grammatical elements of Zantufa are different from the tendency of Lojban IRC dialect explained by [https://web.archive.org/web/20151031175123/https://mw.lojban.org/papri/La_Bangu La Bangu].
 
Frankly speaking, Lojban IRC dialect is pursuit of usefulness for European languages speakers or computer geeks: the usefulness is not necessarily universal.
 
On the other hand, Zantufa pursues simplicity of the grammar itself, eliminates the unfairness and attaches importance to the conformity with logic. For that purpose, it sacrifices certain usefulness in certain cases.
 
Those principles originate from aesthetic values by Guskant. According to her, Lojban IRC dialect is a grotesque mass brought by reckless additions of "useful" functions to the old house (the official Lojban) that became somehow old-fashioned and incovenient: it lacks synthetic beauty. On the other hand, the structure of Zantufa is similar to that of traditional Japanese house: a room is not destined for a fixed usage but used for various purposes. Zantufa has not many but versatile grammatical elements for high expressiveness.
 
Here is a list of characteristics of [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.html Zantufa_1]. However, [http://lojban.github.io/ilmentufa/camxes-exp.html Ilmentufa experimental] or [http://archive.is/Fmmtd Altatufa] may take some of the following characteristics into their own grammar, and then those parts will become not the characteristics of Zantufa only.


; Most part of [[zasni gerna cenba vreji|the temporary grammar]] suggested by Xorxes is inherited.  
; Most part of [[zasni gerna cenba vreji|the temporary grammar]] suggested by Xorxes is inherited.  
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: but [[zantufa mekso|the relations between operators and operands are modified]] for convenience.  
: but [[zantufa mekso|the relations between operators and operands are modified]] for convenience.  
; [[zantufa jonma'o|System of conjunctions]] is based on the suggestion of [[zasni gerna cenba vreji|Xorxes]] and that of [http://selpahi.weebly.com/lojban/how-to-substantially-simplify-the-lojban-connective-system-my-connective-system Selpa'i],
; [[zantufa jonma'o|System of conjunctions]] is based on the suggestion of [[zasni gerna cenba vreji|Xorxes]] and that of [http://selpahi.weebly.com/lojban/how-to-substantially-simplify-the-lojban-connective-system-my-connective-system Selpa'i],
: but it is characteristic that Zantufa [[zantufa jonma'o#lo_li.27erla.27i_jonma.27o|gives importance to forethought connectives]],
: but it is characteristic that Zantufa [[zantufa jonma'o#lo_li.27erla.27i_jonma.27o|gives much expressiveness to forethought connectives]]. [[zantufa jonma'o smuni|The semantics to profit from expressiveness]] is proposed.
: as well as [[zantufa jonma'o#lo_jbini_jonma.27o|to the statements between selma'o NU and KEI]].
: Also, it gives importance [[zantufa jonma'o#lo_jbini_jonma.27o|to the statements between selma'o NU and KEI]].
:: In other words, the statements between NU and KEI has a full logical property, for example   
:: In other words, the statements between NU and KEI has a full logical property, for example   
::<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">([CU {</span>'''du'u '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">«(¹[</span>'''da de'''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">]</span>''' zo'u'''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">¹) (¹</span>'''da '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">[CU {</span>'''broda '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">«</span>'''de '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">VAU»}]¹) (¹</span>'''i je '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">[</span>'''de '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">{CU «</span>'''brode '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">(²</span>'''da '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">VAU²)»}]¹)»</span>''' kei'''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">} VAU] IAU)</span>.
::<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">([CU {</span>'''du'u '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">«(¹[</span>'''da de'''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">]</span>''' zo'u'''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">¹) (¹</span>'''da '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">[CU {</span>'''broda '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">«</span>'''de '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">VAU»}]¹) (¹</span>'''i je '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">[</span>'''de '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">{CU «</span>'''brode '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">(²</span>'''da '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">VAU²)»}]¹)»</span>''' kei'''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">} VAU] IAU)</span>.
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: Briefly speaking, they suggested that we don't need to distinguish selma'o FA of sumti tag and selma'o SE of selbri/conjunction/tag tag.
: Briefly speaking, they suggested that we don't need to distinguish selma'o FA of sumti tag and selma'o SE of selbri/conjunction/tag tag.
: If the whole idea were adopted, selma'o FA would take the place of selma'o SE,
: If the whole idea were adopted, selma'o FA would take the place of selma'o SE,
: for example "seva'u" would be replaced by "feva'u".
: for example "'''seva'u'''" would be replaced by "'''feva'u'''", and "'''segu ra gi ri'''" by "'''fegu ra gi ri'''".
: However, Camxes parses it as <span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">([{</span>'''fe '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">KU} {</span>'''va'u '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">KU}] VAU)</span>. Moreover, if the whole idea were adopted, many official Lojban texts could not be parsed.
: However, Camxes parses them as <span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">([{</span>'''fe '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">KU} {</span>'''va'u '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">KU}] VAU)</span> and <span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">([</span>'''fe '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">{</span>'''gu ra gi ri'''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">}] VAU)</span>. If the whole idea were adopted, the resulting structure of many Lojban texts would be different from that of Camxes<ref name="fa">For constructing the same structure as <span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">([</span>'''fe '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">{</span>'''gu ra gi ri'''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">}] VAU)</span> of Camxes under the condition that selma'o FA is replaced by selma'o SE, use cmavo '''ke''': <span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">([</span>'''fe '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">{</span>'''ke '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">«</span>'''gu ra '''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">(¹</span>'''gi ri'''<span style="font-weight:normal;color:#688A08;">¹) GIhI» KEhE}] VAU)</span> (cmavo '''ke''' for sumti is useful here, too). Even if selma'o FA is replaced by selma'o SE, the expressiveness of the language will not decline.</ref>.
: This is the reason for that Zantufa adopted only a part of the idea.
: This is the reason for that Zantufa adopted only a part of the idea.
: However, Zantufa extreme would adopt the whole idea.
: However, Zantufa extreme would adopt the whole idea.
: (In that case, the frequent sound "f" is not very beautiful, and the sounds "fa fe fi fo fu" might be therefore replaced by "sa se si so su" or something other.)
: (In that case, the frequent sound "f" is not very beautiful, and the sounds "fa fe fi fo fu" might be therefore replaced by "sa se si so su" or something other.)
; "Non-possession, non-production, and non-introduction" of selma'o ZOhOI, MEhOI, DOhOI.
: Those selma'o have function of quoting a series of non-Lojban symbols separated by spaces or periods in a series of characters, or by glottal stops or pauses in a series of phonemes; they are taught in [https://web.archive.org/web/20151031175123/https://mw.lojban.org/papri/La_Bangu La Bangu] or ''[[Lojban Wave Lessons]]'' as "useful" (for European language speakers or computer geeks) cmavo for quoting one non-Lojban word. They are quite popular in the "Lojban" community, but rejected by Zantufa because of violation of the principles on the following points:
:: it is ugly as grammatical structure that the success of quotation depends on the properties of non-Lojban language of the quoted part, that one word is separated by spaces, periods, glottal stops or pauses;
:: it is unfair for the languages of the quoted parts that these selma'o cannot be used for Polynesian languages in which a word may include glottal stops, while they can quote even a full book in Chinese or Japanese in which spaces or periods are unnecessary.
; The new cmavo are put in the existing selma'o as much as possible.
: No selection among cmavo according to the usefulness is performed: all are accepted because adding whichever cmavo to existing selma'o does not affect the structural beauty of the grammar.
:: For example, new cmavo created by Curtis W Franks, so-called "kurtyvla", [[zantufa nu selma'o stika|are mostly put in the existing selma'o]]. Most of kurtyvla are cmavo related to mekso, and many of them are accompanied by suggestions of new selma'o. However, considering the usage, it is sufficient for [[zantufa mekso|the mekso structure of Zantufa]] to add them to existing selma'o.
; '''i JOI''' and '''i (BAI) BO''' are conjunctions of sentences, not of fragments (terms, conjunctions, numerals etc.).
: Fragments can be separated by '''i''', but the fragments don't have truth value, and thus they are not object of conjunction in logic. If the fragments were treated on the same conjunction as sentences, that would be a violation of one of the principles of Zantufa, of attaching importance to the conformity with logic<ref name="cohe">There is also a parser that gives a word '''co'e''' elidible to each fragment ([http://archive.is/Fmmtd Altatufa of the date 2015-09-04 UTC]). This parser changes a fragment into a sentence, and it allows us connecting a fragment and a sentence with a conjunction. It changes a fragment into a sentence, in other words, a certain truth value is given to each utterance. That is to say, we cannot speak anything without truth value unless a SU structure erases the parsed part (though [http://archive.is/Fmmtd Altatufa of the date 2015-09-04 UTC] cannot even parse a SU structure). Taking away the liberty of speaking something meaningful without truth value, it is a folly!</ref>.
: For the same reason, it is logically nonsense to permit conjunctions attached to selma'o NIhO, which separates a series of sentences and fragments. Because of that, [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.html Zantufa_1] or earlier do not permit conjunctions to NIhO.
: However, under the condition that we are conscious that NIhO is not a logical element, we may not confuse the conjunction of NIhO with that of Logic. [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.1.html Zantufa_1.1] permits conjunctions to NIhO. The conjunctions of NIhO, just like the conjunctions in tanru, should be ignored in logical calculation. With this property, a significant part of [http://selpahi.de/oz_plain.html ''lo se manci te makfa pe la .oz.''] is parsed by Zantufa_1.1: not all, because there are some parts that are discordant with the grammar of Zantufa, like "'''i ba bo''' connects fragments," "'''nu'i nu'u''' and '''ge gi''' are used together" etc. For the parser applicable to la Oz, see [[maftufa|Maftufa]].


== Classes of Zantufa ==
== Classes of Zantufa ==
These are the classes of Zantufa: [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-0.9.html Zantufa], [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/maltufa-0.9.html Maltufa] and [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-0.9-cekitaujoibu.html Cekitaus].
These are the classes of Zantufa: [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.1.html Zantufa], [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/maltufa-1.1.html Maltufa], [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.1-cekitaujoibu.html Cekitaus] and [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/maftufa-1.1.html Maftufa].


=== Zantufa ===
=== Zantufa ===
[http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-0.9.html Zantufa] parses mainly the expressions of [[User:Guskant|Guskant]].
[http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.1.html Zantufa] parses mainly the expressions of [[User:Guskant|Guskant]].


=== Maltufa ===
=== Maltufa ===
[http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/maltufa-0.4.html Maltufa], which Guskant began creating for people damning Zantufa<ref name="xebni">Most of Lojban IRC members and frequent Lojban speakers (who are the creator of [[La Bangu]] and the speakers of the Lojban IRC dialect that is explained by La Bangu) damn much Zantufa. The opinions of them are so illogical that Guskant will not sincerely respond. Zantufa is simply one of the parsers of texts in Lojban. Frequent abuse on Zantufa is similar to the situation that American English speakers heap abuse on Indian English. Despicable.</ref>,  
[http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/maltufa-0.4.html Maltufa], which Guskant began creating for people damning Zantufa<ref name="xebni">Most of Lojban IRC members and frequent Lojban speakers (who are the creator of [https://web.archive.org/web/20151031175123/https://mw.lojban.org/papri/La_Bangu La Bangu] and the speakers of the Lojban IRC dialect that is explained by La Bangu) damn much Zantufa. The opinions of them are so illogical that Guskant will not sincerely respond. Zantufa is simply one of the parsers of texts in Lojban, and it forces nobody to do anything. Frequent abuse on Zantufa is similar to the situation that American English speakers heap abuse on Indian English. Despicable.</ref>,  
[http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/maltufa-0.8.html was modified] in order to parse good old Lojban texts, for example [[la .teris. po'u lo tirxu cu vitke zi'o le barda tcadu|''la teris po'u lo tirxu cu vitke zi'o le barda tcadu'']].
[http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/maltufa-0.8.html was modified] in order to parse good old Lojban texts, for example [[la .teris. po'u lo tirxu cu vitke zi'o le barda tcadu|''la teris po'u lo tirxu cu vitke zi'o le barda tcadu'']].
:Parsers [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes-exp.html Ilmentufa experimental] and [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes.html Ilmentufa camxes] of the date 2015-08-10 UTC cannot parse it.
:Parsers [https://web.archive.org/web/20151127105727/http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes-exp.html Ilmentufa experimental] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20151015191217/http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes.html Ilmentufa camxes] of the date 2015-08-10 UTC cannot parse it.
: (Parsers [http://camxes.lojban.org/ Camxes] and [http://www.lojban.org/jboski/index.php Jbofi'e] parse it well because they have not yet adopted [[BPFK Section: Ban on consonant-glide-vowel strings|the new rule]].)
: (Parsers [http://camxes.lojban.org/ Camxes] and [http://www.lojban.org/jboski/index.php Jbofi'e] parse it well because they have not yet adopted [[BPFK Section: Ban on consonant-glide-vowel strings|the new rule]].)
: (Similarly, [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-0.9.html Zantufa] parses the new version [[la .teris. ku noi tigra cu stuvi'e lo barda tcadu|''la .teris. ku noi tigra cu stuvi'e lo barda tcadu'']], while [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes-exp.html Ilmentufa experimental], [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes.html Ilmentufa camxes], [http://camxes.lojban.org/ Camxes] and [http://www.lojban.org/jboski/index.php Jbofi'e] (of the date 2015-08-10) cannot parse it<ref name="naljbo">Like this, Zantufa parses many lojban texts that cannot be parsed by [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes-exp.html Ilmentufa experimental]. However, people who damn Zantufa say often that Zantufa is not of Lojban. This fact shows egocentrism of the "Lojban" community. If Zantufa that parses ''la teris'' were not of Lojban, what is Ilmentufa experimental that cannot parse it?</ref>.)
: (Similarly, [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.html Zantufa] parses the new version [[la .teris. ku noi tigra cu stuvi'e lo barda tcadu|''la .teris. ku noi tigra cu stuvi'e lo barda tcadu'']], while [https://web.archive.org/web/20151127105727/http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes-exp.html Ilmentufa experimental], [https://web.archive.org/web/20151015191217/http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes.html Ilmentufa camxes], [http://camxes.lojban.org/ Camxes] and [http://www.lojban.org/jboski/index.php Jbofi'e] (of the date 2015-08-10) cannot parse it<ref name="naljbo">Like this, Zantufa parses many lojban texts that cannot be parsed by [https://web.archive.org/web/20151127105727/http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes-exp.html Ilmentufa experimental]. However, people who damn Zantufa say often that Zantufa is not of Lojban. This fact shows [[The egocentrism of a Lojban community|egocentrism of the "Lojban" community]], saying "our dialects are [https://web.archive.org/web/20151031175123/https://mw.lojban.org/papri/La_Bangu#Conflicts_with_CLL_Lojban_that_break_past_usage modern dialects of Lojban], yours is not Lojban." If Zantufa that parses ''la teris'' were not of Lojban, what is Ilmentufa experimental that cannot parse it?</ref>.)


=== Cekitaus ===
=== Cekitaus ===
[http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-0.9-cekitaujoibu.html Zantufa] and [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/maltufa-0.9-cekitaujoibu.html Maltufa] have some sorts of Cekitaus that parse many [[ce ki tau jau|Cekitaus texts]].
[http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1-cekitaujoibu.html Zantufa] and [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/maltufa-1-cekitaujoibu.html Maltufa] have some sorts of Cekitaus that parse many [[ce ki tau jau|Cekitaus texts]].


Most part of the idea of Cekitaus is adopted by Zantufa.  
For example, [http://danmo-rozgu.github.io/kacatraloverba.html ''ka càtra lo vèrba''] is parsed by [http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1-cekitaujoibu.html Zantufa_1 cekitaujoibus] (it is very long, so divide the text into two parts to parse).


However, for the importance of the selma'o GA, Zantufa cannot adopt exchanges (mo'oi ge) (i'au go) (zo'u go) (moi'oi gei ge'i) etc.
Most part of the idea of Cekitaus is adopted by Zantufa. However, for the importance of the selma'o GA, Zantufa cannot adopt exchanges (mo'oi ge) (i'au go) (zo'u go) (moi'oi gei ge'i) etc.


If you have another idea of exchange of cmavo, inform [[User talk:Guskant|Guskant]] who can create a new sort of Zantufa or Maltufa of Cekitaus for you!
If you have another idea of exchange of cmavo, inform [[User talk:Guskant|Guskant]] who can create a new sort of Zantufa or Maltufa of Cekitaus for you!
=== [[maftufa|Maftufa]] ===
[[maftufa|Maftufa]] parses [http://selpahi.de/oz_plain.html ''lo se manci te makfa pe la oz''].


== Notes ==
== Notes ==
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== List of pages of Zantufa ==
== List of pages of Zantufa ==
In Lojban:
In Lojban:
* [[zantufa]]
* [[zantufa/jbo]]
* [[zantufa jonma'o]]
* [[zantufa jonma'o]]
* [[zantufa jonma'o smuni/jbo]]
* [[zantufa mekso]]
* [[zantufa mekso]]
* [[zantufa ze'oi FA]]
* [[zantufa ze'oi FA]]
* [[zantufa nu selma'o stika]]
* [[zantufa nu selma'o stika]]
* [[maftufa/jbo]]
In French:
In French:
* [[zantufa/fr]]
* [[zantufa/fr]]
* [[zantufa jonma'o smuni/fr]]
In Japanese:
In Japanese:
* [[zantufa/ja]]
* [[zantufa/ja]]
* [[zantufa jonma'o smuni/ja]]
In English:
* [[zantufa/en]]
* [[zantufa jonma'o smuni/en]]
* [[maftufa/en]]

Latest revision as of 07:47, 6 November 2017

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zantufa farvi

What is Zantufa?

  • Zantufa is one of parsers of texts in Lojban.
  • Zantufa is based on an unofficial but beautiful and simple grammar aiming at impartiality according to Guskant.

Expected characteristics of Zantufa

How is Zantufa related to the other variations of Lojban?

What is expected?

It is expected that people will leave the grammar explained by La Bangu and live in a good grammar. Good luck to Zantufa!

Completed

What Guskant desired is almost completed by Zantufa_1.

There rest only removing bugs and adding new cmavo of existing selma'o.

Please inform Guskant if you find any bugs or problems.

The principles of selection of grammatical elements of Zantufa are different from the tendency of Lojban IRC dialect explained by La Bangu.

Frankly speaking, Lojban IRC dialect is pursuit of usefulness for European languages speakers or computer geeks: the usefulness is not necessarily universal.

On the other hand, Zantufa pursues simplicity of the grammar itself, eliminates the unfairness and attaches importance to the conformity with logic. For that purpose, it sacrifices certain usefulness in certain cases.

Those principles originate from aesthetic values by Guskant. According to her, Lojban IRC dialect is a grotesque mass brought by reckless additions of "useful" functions to the old house (the official Lojban) that became somehow old-fashioned and incovenient: it lacks synthetic beauty. On the other hand, the structure of Zantufa is similar to that of traditional Japanese house: a room is not destined for a fixed usage but used for various purposes. Zantufa has not many but versatile grammatical elements for high expressiveness.

Here is a list of characteristics of Zantufa_1. However, Ilmentufa experimental or Altatufa may take some of the following characteristics into their own grammar, and then those parts will become not the characteristics of Zantufa only.

Most part of the temporary grammar suggested by Xorxes is inherited.
In other words, it has a little difference from Iocixes of peg of the temporary grammar (both became inaccessible) that inherited the whole temporary grammar.
Here is the detail.
The idea of removing capital letters as marks for stress is not adopted.
It is because Guskant cannot modify preproc.js so that it could take the place of grammar of capital letters.
Syllabic consonants are not modified.
It is because the modification would prevent from analysing many old Lojban texts.
However, Zantufa extreme might inherit it.
Words ke and ke'e still span over sumti or bridi-tail.
It is not much necessary, but it should be permitted for replacement of NUhI and NUhU by KE and KEhE.
Selma'o LAU, TEI and FOI are still in the grammar.
It is because selma'o TEI and FOI are useful for expressing Chinese characters in Chinese or Japanese method (部首).
For example, "tei remna bu sanli bu foi" has the same meaning as "zoizoi 位 zoi bu".
The similar method is frequent in spoken Chinese or Japanese, as well as in a Chinese input method.
Selma'o TEI and FOI are distinguished from BY in the grammar, and then it is easy to distinguish a Chinese character from others.
(Selma'o LAU is not much necessary for Chinese or Japanese, but kept for similarity to TEI in usage.)
Most part of MEX grammar proposal by Xorxes is inherited,
but the relations between operators and operands are modified for convenience.
System of conjunctions is based on the suggestion of Xorxes and that of Selpa'i,
but it is characteristic that Zantufa gives much expressiveness to forethought connectives. The semantics to profit from expressiveness is proposed.
Also, it gives importance to the statements between selma'o NU and KEI.
In other words, the statements between NU and KEI has a full logical property, for example
([CU {du'u «(¹[da de] zo'u¹) (¹da [CU {broda «de VAU»}]¹) (¹i je [de {CU «brode da VAU²)»}]¹)» kei} VAU] IAU).
This property is necessary from a point of view of the philosophy of Quine.
Selma'o FA of Zantufa is based on a suggestion by a Japanese Lojban group.
Briefly speaking, they suggested that we don't need to distinguish selma'o FA of sumti tag and selma'o SE of selbri/conjunction/tag tag.
If the whole idea were adopted, selma'o FA would take the place of selma'o SE,
for example "seva'u" would be replaced by "feva'u", and "segu ra gi ri" by "fegu ra gi ri".
However, Camxes parses them as ([{fe KU} {va'u KU}] VAU) and ([fe {gu ra gi ri}] VAU). If the whole idea were adopted, the resulting structure of many Lojban texts would be different from that of Camxes[3].
This is the reason for that Zantufa adopted only a part of the idea.
However, Zantufa extreme would adopt the whole idea.
(In that case, the frequent sound "f" is not very beautiful, and the sounds "fa fe fi fo fu" might be therefore replaced by "sa se si so su" or something other.)
"Non-possession, non-production, and non-introduction" of selma'o ZOhOI, MEhOI, DOhOI.
Those selma'o have function of quoting a series of non-Lojban symbols separated by spaces or periods in a series of characters, or by glottal stops or pauses in a series of phonemes; they are taught in La Bangu or Lojban Wave Lessons as "useful" (for European language speakers or computer geeks) cmavo for quoting one non-Lojban word. They are quite popular in the "Lojban" community, but rejected by Zantufa because of violation of the principles on the following points:
it is ugly as grammatical structure that the success of quotation depends on the properties of non-Lojban language of the quoted part, that one word is separated by spaces, periods, glottal stops or pauses;
it is unfair for the languages of the quoted parts that these selma'o cannot be used for Polynesian languages in which a word may include glottal stops, while they can quote even a full book in Chinese or Japanese in which spaces or periods are unnecessary.
The new cmavo are put in the existing selma'o as much as possible.
No selection among cmavo according to the usefulness is performed: all are accepted because adding whichever cmavo to existing selma'o does not affect the structural beauty of the grammar.
For example, new cmavo created by Curtis W Franks, so-called "kurtyvla", are mostly put in the existing selma'o. Most of kurtyvla are cmavo related to mekso, and many of them are accompanied by suggestions of new selma'o. However, considering the usage, it is sufficient for the mekso structure of Zantufa to add them to existing selma'o.
i JOI and i (BAI) BO are conjunctions of sentences, not of fragments (terms, conjunctions, numerals etc.).
Fragments can be separated by i, but the fragments don't have truth value, and thus they are not object of conjunction in logic. If the fragments were treated on the same conjunction as sentences, that would be a violation of one of the principles of Zantufa, of attaching importance to the conformity with logic[4].
For the same reason, it is logically nonsense to permit conjunctions attached to selma'o NIhO, which separates a series of sentences and fragments. Because of that, Zantufa_1 or earlier do not permit conjunctions to NIhO.
However, under the condition that we are conscious that NIhO is not a logical element, we may not confuse the conjunction of NIhO with that of Logic. Zantufa_1.1 permits conjunctions to NIhO. The conjunctions of NIhO, just like the conjunctions in tanru, should be ignored in logical calculation. With this property, a significant part of lo se manci te makfa pe la .oz. is parsed by Zantufa_1.1: not all, because there are some parts that are discordant with the grammar of Zantufa, like "i ba bo connects fragments," "nu'i nu'u and ge gi are used together" etc. For the parser applicable to la Oz, see Maftufa.

Classes of Zantufa

These are the classes of Zantufa: Zantufa, Maltufa, Cekitaus and Maftufa.

Zantufa

Zantufa parses mainly the expressions of Guskant.

Maltufa

Maltufa, which Guskant began creating for people damning Zantufa[5], was modified in order to parse good old Lojban texts, for example la teris po'u lo tirxu cu vitke zi'o le barda tcadu.

Parsers Ilmentufa experimental and Ilmentufa camxes of the date 2015-08-10 UTC cannot parse it.
(Parsers Camxes and Jbofi'e parse it well because they have not yet adopted the new rule.)
(Similarly, Zantufa parses the new version la .teris. ku noi tigra cu stuvi'e lo barda tcadu, while Ilmentufa experimental, Ilmentufa camxes, Camxes and Jbofi'e (of the date 2015-08-10) cannot parse it[6].)

Cekitaus

Zantufa and Maltufa have some sorts of Cekitaus that parse many Cekitaus texts.

For example, ka càtra lo vèrba is parsed by Zantufa_1 cekitaujoibus (it is very long, so divide the text into two parts to parse).

Most part of the idea of Cekitaus is adopted by Zantufa. However, for the importance of the selma'o GA, Zantufa cannot adopt exchanges (mo'oi ge) (i'au go) (zo'u go) (moi'oi gei ge'i) etc.

If you have another idea of exchange of cmavo, inform Guskant who can create a new sort of Zantufa or Maltufa of Cekitaus for you!

Maftufa

Maftufa parses lo se manci te makfa pe la oz.

Notes

  1. New voi is finally in la cekitaus, not in Zantufa principal, because word poi'i takes the place.
  2. The source of Ilmentufa was changed to what cannot be put under the power of the dictator after Guskant revealed to the members of lojban mailing list the detail of dictatorship of Gleki. Gleki explained however that the reason was unstability of "vrici" server, not remorse of his own dictatorship. Here is the evidence that is an extract of the archives of IRC #lojban channel:
    --- Day changed Tue Feb 02 2016
    12:45 < gleki> Ilmen: lo se benji be mi cu srana i sa'u la camxes bu'u la vrici zo'u na mutce zabna i la vrici ta'e co'u akti
  3. For constructing the same structure as ([fe {gu ra gi ri}] VAU) of Camxes under the condition that selma'o FA is replaced by selma'o SE, use cmavo ke: ([fe {ke «gu ra gi ri¹) GIhI» KEhE}] VAU) (cmavo ke for sumti is useful here, too). Even if selma'o FA is replaced by selma'o SE, the expressiveness of the language will not decline.
  4. There is also a parser that gives a word co'e elidible to each fragment (Altatufa of the date 2015-09-04 UTC). This parser changes a fragment into a sentence, and it allows us connecting a fragment and a sentence with a conjunction. It changes a fragment into a sentence, in other words, a certain truth value is given to each utterance. That is to say, we cannot speak anything without truth value unless a SU structure erases the parsed part (though Altatufa of the date 2015-09-04 UTC cannot even parse a SU structure). Taking away the liberty of speaking something meaningful without truth value, it is a folly!
  5. Most of Lojban IRC members and frequent Lojban speakers (who are the creator of La Bangu and the speakers of the Lojban IRC dialect that is explained by La Bangu) damn much Zantufa. The opinions of them are so illogical that Guskant will not sincerely respond. Zantufa is simply one of the parsers of texts in Lojban, and it forces nobody to do anything. Frequent abuse on Zantufa is similar to the situation that American English speakers heap abuse on Indian English. Despicable.
  6. Like this, Zantufa parses many lojban texts that cannot be parsed by Ilmentufa experimental. However, people who damn Zantufa say often that Zantufa is not of Lojban. This fact shows egocentrism of the "Lojban" community, saying "our dialects are modern dialects of Lojban, yours is not Lojban." If Zantufa that parses la teris were not of Lojban, what is Ilmentufa experimental that cannot parse it?

List of pages of Zantufa

In Lojban:

In French:

In Japanese:

In English: