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Lojban's insistence on self-segmenting morphophonology entails a few places in which pauses are mandatory.  The pauses <u>may</u> be written with a period (see [[denpa bu]]), but the writing of the period is <u>not</u> mandatory, even when the pause is.  Note that pause does not equal glottal stop: a glottal stop is considered an instance of pause, but not all pauses have glottal stops.


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Here are the places where a pause is required:


||English expression|Translation|Comments
# Before all words starting with a vowel.
 
# After all cmene (words ending in a consonant).
Sorry|.u'i|
# Before all cmene <u>unless</u> preceded by '''la/lai/doi''' (a particular instance would be after COI words)
 
# After all words ending in '''-y''' (lerfu words) <u>unless</u> followed by another lerfu word (also ending in '''-y''').  (note that this combines with the first rule to require '''.y.''' and '''.y'y.''' to have pauses on both sides... unless followed by a lerfu word, I suppose.)
| ||
# After the opening delimiter word, and before the close delimiter word, of '''la'o'''/'''zoi''' quotes.
# After <u>stressed</u> cmavo, when followed by a brivla. (stress in cmavo is normally free, but cmavo in front of brivla are not to be stressed, unless there is a pause, or else we can't divide the words right)
#* The pause is not required when the brivla begins with a stressed syllable. If it is longer, it may be. '''LEselDENpa''' doesn't need a pause but '''LE.kraTAIgo''' does.
#**Is that it?  ''--mi'e [[User:Mark Shoulson|.mark.]]''
#***By "required", do you mean "needed in all situations" or "required by rule"?  If the former, then item 4 on lerfu words is not necessarily true ('''cy''' at the beginning of utterance or with enough cmavo around it should be fine). If the latter, then the subcomment under 6 about LEselDENpa is out of order since the rule says pause is necessary anyway. -- ''mi'e [[Nora LeChevalier|noras.]]''

Latest revision as of 17:16, 16 August 2019

Lojban's insistence on self-segmenting morphophonology entails a few places in which pauses are mandatory. The pauses may be written with a period (see denpa bu), but the writing of the period is not mandatory, even when the pause is. Note that pause does not equal glottal stop: a glottal stop is considered an instance of pause, but not all pauses have glottal stops.

Here are the places where a pause is required:

  1. Before all words starting with a vowel.
  2. After all cmene (words ending in a consonant).
  3. Before all cmene unless preceded by la/lai/doi (a particular instance would be after COI words)
  4. After all words ending in -y (lerfu words) unless followed by another lerfu word (also ending in -y). (note that this combines with the first rule to require .y. and .y'y. to have pauses on both sides... unless followed by a lerfu word, I suppose.)
  5. After the opening delimiter word, and before the close delimiter word, of la'o/zoi quotes.
  6. After stressed cmavo, when followed by a brivla. (stress in cmavo is normally free, but cmavo in front of brivla are not to be stressed, unless there is a pause, or else we can't divide the words right)
    • The pause is not required when the brivla begins with a stressed syllable. If it is longer, it may be. LEselDENpa doesn't need a pause but LE.kraTAIgo does.
      • Is that it? --mi'e .mark.
        • By "required", do you mean "needed in all situations" or "required by rule"? If the former, then item 4 on lerfu words is not necessarily true (cy at the beginning of utterance or with enough cmavo around it should be fine). If the latter, then the subcomment under 6 about LEselDENpa is out of order since the rule says pause is necessary anyway. -- mi'e noras.