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{{jbocre/en}}Lojban should already contain semantic primes in its '''gismu''' space.  Example, '''ckaji''' ('''kai'''); we have the abstractor '''ka'''.
*[[jbocre: jezrax|jezrax]]:
*:I had to look up "semantic prime". In linguistics, it seems to refer to a "core" meaning that isn't further analyzed, analogous to a prime number that can't be further factored. It's associated with theories that all meanings are built up out of some small set of semantic primes. It looks like the term is due to [[jbocre: Anna Wierzbicka|Anna Wierzbicka]]. Sounds related to the [[jbocre: Gismu Deep Structure|Gismu Deep Structure]] hypothesis.
*la .[[nitcion]]. puzu cusku di'e:
*:It remains to be seen to what extent Lojban can find, let alone enforce, a native semantic map, founded on its morphological primitives.


fo zoi vy. http://www.lojban.org/files/papers/nsn_semantics_paper .vy
= ''capital''. Proposed place structure:
 
* tcadu1=turni1 tcadu2 tcadu3=turni2 tcadu4
 
The equivalence between ''tcadu1'' and ''turni1'' is of course very loose.
 
It might be decided in the interest of sanity that ''tcadu2'' (metropolitan area) and ''tcadu4'' (hinterland) should be dropped, because they contribute nothing to the notion of capitalhood. I think this would be wrong: this kind of dropping would not be predictable, and consistency is very important in novel place structures. Besides, a ''trutca'' is still a ''tcadu''.
 
<br />A ''trutca'' is not, however, a ''turni''. So [[jbocre: Adam Cooper|Adam Cooper]] propose:
 
* x1=tcadu1 x2=turni2 x3=tcadu2 x4=tcadu3 x5=tcadu4

Revision as of 11:51, 23 March 2014

= capital. Proposed place structure:

  • tcadu1=turni1 tcadu2 tcadu3=turni2 tcadu4

The equivalence between tcadu1 and turni1 is of course very loose.

It might be decided in the interest of sanity that tcadu2 (metropolitan area) and tcadu4 (hinterland) should be dropped, because they contribute nothing to the notion of capitalhood. I think this would be wrong: this kind of dropping would not be predictable, and consistency is very important in novel place structures. Besides, a trutca is still a tcadu.


A trutca is not, however, a turni. So Adam Cooper propose:

  • x1=tcadu1 x2=turni2 x3=tcadu2 x4=tcadu3 x5=tcadu4