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First proposed (with a real chance back then of it becoming official!) by [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]]: [http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9012/msg00009.html] , rejected at Logfest 91: [http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9106/msg00127.html]. | First proposed (with a real chance back then of it becoming official!) by [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]]: [http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9012/msg00009.html] , rejected at Logfest 91: [http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9106/msg00127.html]. | ||
:According to proposal in chapter 4.16 of [[ | :According to proposal in chapter 4.16 of [[The Book|The Book]], fu'ivla ''spe'ato'' can be used instead. How do you like this? -- [[User:Cyril Slobin|kir]] | ||
::''spe'anto'' is better, IMO. --[[jbocre: Jay Kominek|Jay]] | ::''spe'anto'' is better, IMO. --[[jbocre: Jay Kominek|Jay]] | ||
:::''But The Book explicitely suggests CCVVCV for cultural fu'ivla! -- [[User:Cyril Slobin| kir]]'' | :::''But The Book explicitely suggests CCVVCV for cultural fu'ivla! -- [[User:Cyril Slobin| kir]]'' | ||
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::Well, I'm in favour of ''[[pacnybau|pacnybau]]''. --[[User:tsali|tsali]] | ::Well, I'm in favour of ''[[pacnybau|pacnybau]]''. --[[User:tsali|tsali]] | ||
:''Since I think we need to jettison all [[cultural gismu|cultural gismu]] (except "lojbo") and replace them with stage threes, Esperanto is no exception! --xod'' | :''Since I think we need to jettison all [[cultural gismu|cultural gismu]] (except "lojbo") and replace them with stage threes, Esperanto is no exception! --xod'' | ||
:'''All the ire aroused by this comment was moved [[ | :'''All the ire aroused by this comment was moved [[The Emergence of Lojban Nationalism|here]].''' | ||
:pe'i it is okay to keep cultural gismu and add new ones so long as the existing ones lose their rafsi (in usage or in Ideal Lojban). See [[Boo to cultural gismu|Boo to cultural gismu]]. --[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | :pe'i it is okay to keep cultural gismu and add new ones so long as the existing ones lose their rafsi (in usage or in Ideal Lojban). See [[Boo to cultural gismu|Boo to cultural gismu]]. --[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] | ||
:The idea of cultural gismu is totes inconsistent, considering the nature of Lojban. However, the prefixes and suffixes are sometimes useful. - [[User:PlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]] | :The idea of cultural gismu is totes inconsistent, considering the nature of Lojban. However, the prefixes and suffixes are sometimes useful. - [[User:PlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]] |
Revision as of 14:53, 23 March 2014
spero, an unofficial gismu for 'Esperanto' (see also http://arj.nvg.org/lojban/unofficial-gismu.html).
First proposed (with a real chance back then of it becoming official!) by John Cowan: [1] , rejected at Logfest 91: [2].
- According to proposal in chapter 4.16 of The Book, fu'ivla spe'ato can be used instead. How do you like this? -- kir
- spe'anto is better, IMO. --Jay
- But The Book explicitely suggests CCVVCV for cultural fu'ivla! -- kir
- This being a strawpoll :-) , I'm diehard behind bangrnesperanto -- nitcion Maybe banrsperanto? Being hardcore fundamentalist, I avoid this as not being canonical per the Book. ???!!! How is it not canonical? Fine: "not the default strategy suggested."
- Spero all the way! - .kreig.daniyl.
- Well, I'm in favour of pacnybau. --tsali
- spe'anto is better, IMO. --Jay
- Since I think we need to jettison all cultural gismu (except "lojbo") and replace them with stage threes, Esperanto is no exception! --xod
- All the ire aroused by this comment was moved here.
- pe'i it is okay to keep cultural gismu and add new ones so long as the existing ones lose their rafsi (in usage or in Ideal Lojban). See Boo to cultural gismu. --And Rosta
- The idea of cultural gismu is totes inconsistent, considering the nature of Lojban. However, the prefixes and suffixes are sometimes useful. - Plastic Raven