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part of [[jbocre: Taxonomy|Taxonomy]]
part of [[Taxonomy|Taxonomy]]


If you're being precise, you should call this taxon ''ri'ospa'', "green plants", to distinguish them from red algae, diatoms and kelp, and other unrelated organisms that might be called ''spati''.
If you're being precise, you should call this taxon ''ri'ospa'', "green plants", to distinguish them from red algae, diatoms and kelp, and other unrelated organisms that might be called ''spati''.
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*******kurbita (''Cucurbita / pumpkin, squash'')
*******kurbita (''Cucurbita / pumpkin, squash'')


*******[[jbocre: najyzme|najyzme]] (''cantaloupe'')
*******[[najyzme|najyzme]] (''cantaloupe'')
*******durzme (''winter melon'')
*******durzme (''winter melon'')


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*******kinxona (''Cinchona / quinine'')
*******kinxona (''Cinchona / quinine'')
*******[[jbocre: gambire|gambire]] (''Uncaria'')
*******[[gambire|gambire]] (''Uncaria'')




[jbocre: * spatrxalio: so'i jutskepre cu klepu'i fi le se spatrliliace
[* spatrxalio: so'i jutskepre cu klepu'i fi le se spatrliliace


Note:
Note:


* '''[[jbocre: latna|latna]]''' does not seem to be meant as a taxon name.
* '''[[latna|latna]]''' does not seem to be meant as a taxon name.
* '''kobli''' can apparently be any leafy vegetable of various families (Chenopodiaceae, Asteraceae, Brassicaceae, etc.)
* '''kobli''' can apparently be any leafy vegetable of various families (Chenopodiaceae, Asteraceae, Brassicaceae, etc.)


''Where does '''samcu''' ("cassava/taro/manioc/tapioca/yam [[jbocre: edible starchy root|edible starchy root]]") fit in here? Somewhere in '''spatrsolanace''' next to '''patlu''', perhaps? Or under various places like '''kobli'''? mi'e filip.''
''Where does '''samcu''' ("cassava/taro/manioc/tapioca/yam [[edible starchy root|edible starchy root]]") fit in here? Somewhere in '''spatrsolanace''' next to '''patlu''', perhaps? Or under various places like '''kobli'''? mi'e filip.''


*I'm not sure. The glosses are three different plants (''Manihot'' is a spurge (Euphorbiaceae, like the poinsettia), taro (''Colocasia'') is an arum, and yam (''Dioscorea'') is a yam), and then there's the sweet potato (''Ipomoea batatas'', same genus as morning glory) which I don't know whether to call samcu or patlu. In the etymology, two words (''yam'' and ''inhame'') are yams, two more sound like yams, and two I don't recognize. -phma
*I'm not sure. The glosses are three different plants (''Manihot'' is a spurge (Euphorbiaceae, like the poinsettia), taro (''Colocasia'') is an arum, and yam (''Dioscorea'') is a yam), and then there's the sweet potato (''Ipomoea batatas'', same genus as morning glory) which I don't know whether to call samcu or patlu. In the etymology, two words (''yam'' and ''inhame'') are yams, two more sound like yams, and two I don't recognize. -phma

Latest revision as of 16:21, 23 March 2014

part of Taxonomy

If you're being precise, you should call this taxon ri'ospa, "green plants", to distinguish them from red algae, diatoms and kelp, and other unrelated organisms that might be called spati.

  • spati
    • clikyspa
    • bluspati
      • filcina
      • tsispati
        • ckunu
          • ricrpino, jesyckunu
          • junpero
          • ricrcikade
          • ricrginko
          • spatrgnetale
        • angiosperma, rulspati
          • pavyterykotledona
            • sparagale
              • sparago
              • spatrxalio *
                • sunga
                • kamjysunga (leek)
                • sluni
            • spatrliliace
              • tujli
            • glumiflora
              • (l)junkace (Juncaceae / rushes)
              • (l)spatrciperace
                • spatrskirpo (Scirpus / bulrush)
                • misryplespa
                • spatrle,oxari
              • (l)srasu (Poaceae)
                • gurni
                • mavji (Avena / oats)
                • bavmi (Hordeum / barley)
                • zumri (Zea / corn)
                  • cilce zumri (teosinte)
                • sorgu (Sorghum)
                • pamsrasu
                  • gurnrtefi
                • bambusa (bamboo)
                • xagryspa (Arundo / reed)
            • (l)spatrzingiberace
              • zingibero (Zingiber / ginger)
              • kurkuma (Curcuma / turmeric)
              • kardamomu
              • zermbeto
              • glangala
            • (l)badna (Musaceae / bananas)
            • (gl)bromeli
              • rutrxananase
          • relterykotledona
            • (l)spatrsolanace
              • tamca (Lycopersicon esculentum)
              • patlu (Solanum tuberosum)
              • kapsiku (Capsicum / bell and chili peppers)
              • mlongena (Solanum melongena / brinjal, eggplant)
              • stramoni (Stramonium / jimsonweed)
              • tanko (Nicotiana / tobacco)
            • (l)guzme (Cucurbitaceae)
              • clazme (Cucumis sativus / cucumber)
              • panjyzme (Luffa / loofa)
              • guzrcitrulo (Citrullus / watermelon)
              • kurbita (Cucurbita / pumpkin, squash)
              • najyzme (cantaloupe)
              • durzme (winter melon)
            • spatrfabale
              • (l)spatrmimosace
              • (l)spatrkaisalpiniace
              • (l)spatrfabace (Fabaceae)
                • alfalfa
                • trifoli
                • dembi
                  • boldembi (Pisum / pea)
                  • derdembi (Arachis / peanut)
                  • lendembi (Lens / lentil)
                  • sobde
                  • dembrciceri (garbanzo)
                • debrloto (Lotus)
                • trigonela (fenugreek)
            • (l)spatrkanabinace (Cannabinaceae)
              • marna (Cannabis / hemp)
              • birjytsapi (Humulus / hops)
            • (l)kurtsapi, tebrulspa (Lamiaceae, Labiatae)
              • spatrsalvia
                • sevri'a spatrsalvia
              • spatrbasiliko
              • spatrtimo
              • latfekspa
              • spatrmenta
              • spatnrosmarino
              • xarxune (Marrubium)
            • (l)spatnrosace
              • spatrmaloide
                • plise
                • perli
                • krataigo (Crataegus / hawthorn)
              • spatnrosoide
                • rozgu
                • fragari (strawberry)
                • frambesi (raspberry)
              • spatrmugdaloide
                • ricrprunu (Prunus)
                  • flaume (plum)
                  • mugdali (almond)
                  • persika (peach)
                  • ricrceraso (cherry)
            • (l)spatrfagace
              • cindu
            • (l)spatrkomposita, spatrxasterace
              • tarksako (Taraxacum / dandelion, koksaghIz)
              • laktuka / kobrlaktuka / spatrlaktuka (Lactuca sativa / lettuce)
                • clapezli kobrlaktuka (Lactuca sativa var. longifolia / Romaine Lettuce)
              • solxrula (Helianthus / sunflower)
                • solxrula patlu (H. tuberosus / Jerusalem artichoke)
              • xarcufu (Cynara scolymus / artichoke)
            • (l)xruba (Polygonaceae)
              • xrixruba (buckwheat)
            • (l)spatrmalvace (Malvaceae / mallows)
              • mapnyspa (Gossypium)
            • (l)spatrxerikace (Ericaceae / heaths)
              • arbutu
              • cribyjba (Arctostaphylos / bearberry)
              • cpijba (Ornithostaphylos)
              • bakyjba (Vaccinium / cowberry, lingonberry, blueberry, cranberry)
            • (l)matlyspa (Linaceae / flax)
              • selplirai matlyspa (Linum usitatissimum)
            • (l)spatrsterkuliace (Sterculiaceae)
              • cakla
              • sterkuli (monkeynut)
              • nargrkola
            • (l)spatrjuglandace
              • jglandi (walnut)
              • nargrkaria (pecan, hickory)
            • (l)spatrte,ace
              • tcatyspa (Camellia)
            • spatrsapindale
              • ricrxacero
              • nargrpistaco
              • (l)spatnrutace
                • nimre (Citrus)
                  • branimre (grapefruit)
                  • najnimre (orange)
                  • pelnimre (lemon)
              • (l)spatrnakardiace
                • nargrkaju
                • rutrmango
                • vindu skospa
              • (l)spatrmeliace
                • ma'agni
            • (l)rulsantyspa (Umbelliferae, Apiaceae / umbellifers)
              • spatrdauko
              • spatrxapi,o
            • spatrkaparale
              • (l)krucifera, brasikace
                • brasika
                  • kobli (Brassica oleracea / cabbage)
                  • koblrsinapi
                  • koblnrapa
                • spatnrafano (Raphanus / radish)
                • armoraci (horseradish)
            • (l)gunsyjmaspa (Chenopodiaceae / goosefoot)
              • spatrkinua (Chenopodium quinoa)
              • spinaki
            • (l)(j)xinlatna, bujlatna (Nelumbonaceae: Nelumbo / lotus)
            • (l)nimfaiace
              • (j)misrylatna (Nymphaea / waterlily)
            • (l)spatrlitrace (Lythraceae / loosestrife)
              • largectremia (crape myrtle)
            • (l)spatrmorace
              • figre (Ficus / fig)
              • spatrmoro (Morus / mulberry)
            • (l)spatnrubiace (Rubiaceae)
              • kaftricu (Coffea arabica)
              • ricrgardeni
              • iksora
              • kinxona (Cinchona / quinine)
              • gambire (Uncaria)


[* spatrxalio: so'i jutskepre cu klepu'i fi le se spatrliliace

Note:

  • latna does not seem to be meant as a taxon name.
  • kobli can apparently be any leafy vegetable of various families (Chenopodiaceae, Asteraceae, Brassicaceae, etc.)

Where does samcu ("cassava/taro/manioc/tapioca/yam edible starchy root") fit in here? Somewhere in spatrsolanace next to patlu, perhaps? Or under various places like kobli? mi'e filip.

  • I'm not sure. The glosses are three different plants (Manihot is a spurge (Euphorbiaceae, like the poinsettia), taro (Colocasia) is an arum, and yam (Dioscorea) is a yam), and then there's the sweet potato (Ipomoea batatas, same genus as morning glory) which I don't know whether to call samcu or patlu. In the etymology, two words (yam and inhame) are yams, two more sound like yams, and two I don't recognize. -phma
    • So it's a bit like kobli in that it defines things more by outward appearance rather than by cladistical affiliation?(And if we're simply going by "edibly starchy root", that definitely covers potatoes as well, doesn't it? In which case I suppose ro patlu cu samcu. (Which would mean, incidentally, that sweet potatoes would be samcu and the question becomes merely whether they are also patlu.]In which case I suppose samcu doesn't belong anywhere in this tree but perhaps rather in a footnote. mi'e filip.
      • Potatoes are stems, not roots.
        • Ah -- my mistake. I didn't know that. mi'e filip.
      • As to kobli, all six words in the etymology mean some sort of Brassica, so I regard calling lettuce kobli as loosely speaking (and also radishes, since they aren't grown for leaves). -phma