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(comment on the phrase ''ma canja parbi lo dotru'u lo jborupnu'')
 
(comment on the phrase ''ma canja parbi lo dotru'u lo jborupnu'')
  
''is it just me, or could this also be interpreted as ''ma canja parbi lo dotru'u '''lojbo rupnu'''?'' ''
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''is it just me, or could this also be interpreted as ''ma canja parbi lo dotru'u '''lojbo rupnu'''?''''
 
 
 
* Nope. If you're saying ''lojbo rupnu'', you need to put stress on the ''lo''. If you put stress on a cmavo alone or at the end of a compound, you need to follow it by a pause. So the first is ''dot'''ru''''ulojbo'''rup'''nu'' or ''dot'''ru''''u'''lo'''.jbo'''rup'''nu'', and the second is ''dot'''ru''''u'''lo'''jbo'''rup'''nu''.
 
* Nope. If you're saying ''lojbo rupnu'', you need to put stress on the ''lo''. If you put stress on a cmavo alone or at the end of a compound, you need to follow it by a pause. So the first is ''dot'''ru''''ulojbo'''rup'''nu'' or ''dot'''ru''''u'''lo'''.jbo'''rup'''nu'', and the second is ''dot'''ru''''u'''lo'''jbo'''rup'''nu''.
 
** ''do'' has the rafsi ''doi'' - is ''doi'''ger'''ku'' 'your dog' or 'Hey, dog!'?
 
** ''do'' has the rafsi ''doi'' - is ''doi'''ger'''ku'' 'your dog' or 'Hey, dog!'?
 
 
*** It's "Hey, dog!" Lujvo glue exists for exactly this reason - the lujvo for "your dog" is "doirgerku", not "doigerku".
 
*** It's "Hey, dog!" Lujvo glue exists for exactly this reason - the lujvo for "your dog" is "doirgerku", not "doigerku".
 
*** How is the ''doi'' rafsi useful if it must always have glue except finally? Why doesn't do stick with just ''don''?
 
*** How is the ''doi'' rafsi useful if it must always have glue except finally? Why doesn't do stick with just ''don''?
 
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**** It can be used medially: ''mibjoidoigerku'' = "your and my dog" (is this ''tosmabru''-safe?)
**** It can be used medially: ''mibjoidoigerku'' = "your and my dog" (is this ''tosmabru''-safe?)
 
 
***** Yes. If you drop the ''mi'' you don't get anything which could be a Lojban word.
 
***** Yes. If you drop the ''mi'' you don't get anything which could be a Lojban word.
 
 
***** Interestingly enough, this brings us back to stress - only a subtle difference in stress differentiates ''mibjoidoi'''ger'''ku'' from '''''mib'''joi doi '''ger'''ku''. Perhaps if you want to make a lujvo like that, it would be preferable to use more consonants, as in ''mibjoldongerku''.
 
***** Interestingly enough, this brings us back to stress - only a subtle difference in stress differentiates ''mibjoidoi'''ger'''ku'' from '''''mib'''joi doi '''ger'''ku''. Perhaps if you want to make a lujvo like that, it would be preferable to use more consonants, as in ''mibjoldongerku''.
* see also [[Stuff to be removed from the language|Stuff to be removed from the language]]
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{{See also|Stuff to be removed from the language}}

Latest revision as of 05:28, 16 July 2017

(comment on the phrase ma canja parbi lo dotru'u lo jborupnu)

is it just me, or could this also be interpreted as ma canja parbi lo dotru'u lojbo rupnu?'

  • Nope. If you're saying lojbo rupnu, you need to put stress on the lo. If you put stress on a cmavo alone or at the end of a compound, you need to follow it by a pause. So the first is dotru'ulojborupnu or dotru'ulo.jborupnu, and the second is dotru'ulojborupnu.
    • do has the rafsi doi - is doigerku 'your dog' or 'Hey, dog!'?
      • It's "Hey, dog!" Lujvo glue exists for exactly this reason - the lujvo for "your dog" is "doirgerku", not "doigerku".
      • How is the doi rafsi useful if it must always have glue except finally? Why doesn't do stick with just don?
        • It can be used medially: mibjoidoigerku = "your and my dog" (is this tosmabru-safe?)
          • Yes. If you drop the mi you don't get anything which could be a Lojban word.
          • Interestingly enough, this brings us back to stress - only a subtle difference in stress differentiates mibjoidoigerku from mibjoi doi gerku. Perhaps if you want to make a lujvo like that, it would be preferable to use more consonants, as in mibjoldongerku.