https://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=lessons_Errata&feed=atom&action=historylessons Errata - Revision history2024-03-29T13:05:11ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.38.4https://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=lessons_Errata&diff=111522&oldid=prevCirko: kurmikce2015-01-26T19:04:23Z<p>kurmikce</p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">^</del>What do we do, though, if we just want to say "three dogs"? For this we need another article, lo. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font color="#FF0000"></del>The logic of lo is pretty complicated, but it basically means 'something which really is,' which nine times out of ten is the same as English a or some. (Translating Lojban grammar into English like this is a mortal sin — damned under the name of malglico; but even so, this is the best thing to do with lo at this stage!)<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font></del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What do we do, though, if we just want to say "three dogs"? For this we need another article, lo. The logic of lo is pretty complicated, but it basically means 'something which really is,' which nine times out of ten is the same as English a or some. (Translating Lojban grammar into English like this is a mortal sin — damned under the name of malglico; but even so, this is the best thing to do with lo at this stage!)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font color="#FF0000"></del>Note for logicians: lo prenu cu klama expresses the proposition "There exists at least one person, such that that person goes."<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></font></del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Note for logicians: lo prenu cu klama expresses the proposition "There exists at least one person, such that that person goes."</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font color="#FF0000"></del>By contrast, the cannot mean the same thing as lo. In English, the dog doesn't mean just 'something which really is a dog', but more like 'something which really is a dog, and which I already have in mind.' (That's how "A dog came in. A dog was black" and "A dog came in. The dog was black" are different.) Lojban sidesteps this problem by using le gerku 'something which I'm going to call a dog'. It's up to the audience to put together what the speaker had in mind when they called it le gerku, just as it is the audience's job in English to work out what dog the speaker had in mind.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></font></del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>By contrast, the cannot mean the same thing as lo. In English, the dog doesn't mean just 'something which really is a dog', but more like 'something which really is a dog, and which I already have in mind.' (That's how "A dog came in. A dog was black" and "A dog came in. The dog was black" are different.) Lojban sidesteps this problem by using le gerku 'something which I'm going to call a dog'. It's up to the audience to put together what the speaker had in mind when they called it le gerku, just as it is the audience's job in English to work out what dog the speaker had in mind.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So ci lo gerku means <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font color="#FF0000"></del>'three of those which really are dogs', or in plain words,<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></font> </del>'three dogs'. lo ci gerku, however, means that we are talking about [[one or more of|one or more of]] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font color="#FF0000"></del>the only<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></font> </del>three dogs <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font color="#FF0000"></del>in the world, which is not something you'd really want to say. (Mathematicians and logicians can look up the relevant parts of The Complete Lojban Language if they want clarification on this issue — or for that matter on the differences between lo and le.)<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></font>^</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So ci lo gerku means 'three of those which really are dogs', or in plain words, 'three dogs'. lo ci gerku, however, means that we are talking about [[one or more of|one or more of]] the only three dogs in the world, which is not something you'd really want to say. (Mathematicians and logicians can look up the relevant parts of The Complete Lojban Language if they want clarification on this issue — or for that matter on the differences between lo and le.)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So how do you get the number 'three' back into an expression like loi nanmu cu bevri le pipno? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font color="#FF0000"></del>You cannot say loi ci nanmu cu bevri le pipno, because that means that there are only three men that exist in the universe.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></font> </del>You cannot say ci loi nanmu cu bevri le pipno, because the three men act as one mass, and not as three masses. As it turns out (by extension of a little-known mechanism documented in The Complete Lojban Language, pp. 132–133), the way to do it is loi ci lo nanmu cu bevri le pipno: "The mass of three out of [[all|all]] men carries the piano."<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">^</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So how do you get the number 'three' back into an expression like loi nanmu cu bevri le pipno? You cannot say loi ci nanmu cu bevri le pipno, because that means that there are only three men that exist in the universe. You cannot say ci loi nanmu cu bevri le pipno, because the three men act as one mass, and not as three masses. As it turns out (by extension of a little-known mechanism documented in The Complete Lojban Language, pp. 132–133), the way to do it is loi ci lo nanmu cu bevri le pipno: "The mass of three out of [[all|all]] men carries the piano."</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>^...My personal advice (not official Lojban policy!) is when in doubt, use <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font color="#FF0000"></del>le<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></font></del>. This is because the only time <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font color="#FF0000"></del>le<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></font> </del>is completely wrong is with a cmene (which needs la, of course). If you use <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><font color="#FF0000"></del>le<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></font> </del>where another article would be more appropriate, you may not express yourself as clearly as you wanted, but at least you will not be talking ungrammatical nonsense...^</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>^...My personal advice (not official Lojban policy!) is when in doubt, use le. This is because the only time le is completely wrong is with a cmene (which needs la, of course). If you use le where another article would be more appropriate, you may not express yourself as clearly as you wanted, but at least you will not be talking ungrammatical nonsense...^</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Is the answer to exercise 3 #1 correct? ("I mail you in Lojban" -&gt; "mi mrilu fi do bau la lojban.") This says to me that I'm using some sort of special lojban mail service, where to get anything delivered I have to deal with them speaking lojban. Possible, but I would have expected "mi mrilu zo'e pe bau la lojban. do" ("I mail you {something in lojban}"), which parallels the next question ("I give you a book in Lojban" -&gt; "mi dunda lo cukta be bau la lojban. do"). -- mi'e [[<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">jbocre: </del>braiyn|braiyn]] (See [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/message/15108 iscussion on mailing list])</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Is the answer to exercise 3 #1 correct? ("I mail you in Lojban" -&gt; "mi mrilu fi do bau la lojban.") This says to me that I'm using some sort of special lojban mail service, where to get anything delivered I have to deal with them speaking lojban. Possible, but I would have expected "mi mrilu zo'e pe bau la lojban. do" ("I mail you {something in lojban}"), which parallels the next question ("I give you a book in Lojban" -&gt; "mi dunda lo cukta be bau la lojban. do"). -- mi'e [[braiyn|braiyn]] (See [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/message/15108 iscussion on mailing list])</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**OK, this is really nit-picky: In the answer to exercise 6.7, in spelling Walesa, you have correctly used a slashed l (this is why the name is pronounced va,uensa instead of valensa). But, strictly speaking, the e should have a hook (I've also seen it called a "right cedilla") under it. This hook on the e is why the name is pronounced va,uensa instead of va,uesa. Unfortunately, I cannot tell you what character entity reference to use...</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**OK, this is really nit-picky: In the answer to exercise 6.7, in spelling Walesa, you have correctly used a slashed l (this is why the name is pronounced va,uensa instead of valensa). But, strictly speaking, the e should have a hook (I've also seen it called a "right cedilla") under it. This hook on the e is why the name is pronounced va,uensa instead of va,uesa. Unfortunately, I cannot tell you what character entity reference to use...</div></td></tr>
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