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= What's the deal with {moi}? =


There are two related ways to use {moi}: ''numeric moi'' (more common) and ''associateive moi''. For ''numeric moi'', there is some debate over the nature of moi3, the ordering rule. Shown here are various definitions and Lojban expansions by various people.
== Numeric ==
=== Proposed definitions ===
* x1 x2 x3 Nmoi = for a set x2 containing x1, and a predicate x3 associating members of the set with a numerical value, x1 measures higher than all but N-1 set elements.<br/>In Lojban:
** ko'a ko'e ko'i xy ce'ai lo ka ko'a xy moi ko'e ko'i cu ka ge ko'a cmima ko'e gi vei xy vu'u pa ve'o da poi cmima ko'e gi'e drata ko'a ku'o zmadu ko'a ko'i --la durka
** ex: mi pazemoi lo prenu lo ka clani
*** I am the seventeenth tallest person.
* x1 x2 x3 Nmoi = for a set x2 containing x1, and a predicate x3 comparing two members of the set, x1 compares as higher than all but N-1 set elements.<br/>In Lojban:
** ko'e ko'e ko'i xy ce'ai lo ka ko'a xy moi ko'e ko'i cu ka ge ko'a cmima ko'e gi vei xy vu'u pa ve'o da poi cmima ko'e gi'e drata ko'a ku'o me'au ko'i ko'a --la durka
** ex: mi pazemoi lo prenu lo ka clamau
*** I am the seventeenth tallest person.
** ex: .i mi pamoi lo verba lo ka ce'u ce'u darxi
*** No other kids hit me, and I hit all the other kids.
== Associative ==
=== Proposed definitions ===

Revision as of 19:08, 19 May 2014

What's the deal with {moi}?

There are two related ways to use {moi}: numeric moi (more common) and associateive moi. For numeric moi, there is some debate over the nature of moi3, the ordering rule. Shown here are various definitions and Lojban expansions by various people.

Numeric

Proposed definitions

  • x1 x2 x3 Nmoi = for a set x2 containing x1, and a predicate x3 associating members of the set with a numerical value, x1 measures higher than all but N-1 set elements.
    In Lojban:
    • ko'a ko'e ko'i xy ce'ai lo ka ko'a xy moi ko'e ko'i cu ka ge ko'a cmima ko'e gi vei xy vu'u pa ve'o da poi cmima ko'e gi'e drata ko'a ku'o zmadu ko'a ko'i --la durka
    • ex: mi pazemoi lo prenu lo ka clani
      • I am the seventeenth tallest person.
  • x1 x2 x3 Nmoi = for a set x2 containing x1, and a predicate x3 comparing two members of the set, x1 compares as higher than all but N-1 set elements.
    In Lojban:
    • ko'e ko'e ko'i xy ce'ai lo ka ko'a xy moi ko'e ko'i cu ka ge ko'a cmima ko'e gi vei xy vu'u pa ve'o da poi cmima ko'e gi'e drata ko'a ku'o me'au ko'i ko'a --la durka
    • ex: mi pazemoi lo prenu lo ka clamau
      • I am the seventeenth tallest person.
    • ex: .i mi pamoi lo verba lo ka ce'u ce'u darxi
      • No other kids hit me, and I hit all the other kids.


Associative

Proposed definitions