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.i xu lo rozgu poi lo drata cu cmene ke'a ku'o na dunli fileka melbi panci
 
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From the Lojban web site FAQ (http://www.lojban.org/files/brochures/faq.htm):
 
'''cmene''': Lojban names
 
Any word used in Lojban as a name. Often used (loosely) in English to refer specifically to the special morphological class ([[jbocre: selma'o|(selma'o]]) of CMENE, which must end in a consonant, and not include the syllables ''la'', ''lai'', and ''doi''. cmene in Lojban involve LA followed by either CMENE or [[jbocre: selbri|selbri]].
 
Lojban can distinguish between the non-terminal '''cmene''' and the selma'o CMENE (''selma'o po'u la cmene''), but it makes a good deal of sense to refer to CMENE words in Lojban at least as '''cmevla'''. ''I think that a '''cmevla''' is a '''valsi lo cmene''', and thus is minimally different from just '''cmene''' in this respect. ([[jbocre: selbri|(selbri]] used as names are also words used as names. For those Lojban words ending in consonants, I think that '''cmeseltai''' could work, or '''cmeseltaivla'''.''
 
''[[jbocre: cmene|cmene]] isn't a [[jbocre: selma'o|selma'o]]!'' --[[jbocre: Jay Kominek|Jay]]
 
''No, it's a [[jbocre: lexeme|lexeme]], but we end up using [[jbocre: selma'o|selma'o]] (q.v.) to mean [[jbocre: lexeme|lexeme]].''
 
''um. but thats wrong... if you want a word for word class, use vlalei, not the word for cmavo class.''
 
It's certainly bogus to call CMENE a selma'o, though the internal
 
code of the parser does (as well as BRIVLA).  In Lojban, a better
 
term such as vlalei would be preferred.  Then there are 3 vlalei
 
and 120+ selma'o. (JWC, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/message/9513)
 
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Prose] by [[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]] is very easy to identify; he consistently forgets about the rule againt ''la''.
 
''.i .oiru'e zo'o ji'a ze'enai pilno le cmavo be zo ui'' '''.i .u'i mi'e [[User:Nick Nicholas|nitcion]].'''

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