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==  Proposed Definitions And Examples ==
===  Toward a quantitative form of Lojban ===


==== ckinytadji selsku ====


===  cmavo: ri'a (BAI) ===
* ''[[jbocre: fy. fancu lo'i ni terzu'e lo'i ni selsnada .ije li ma'o fy.boi du'e du li mo'a|fy. fancu lo'i ni terzu'e lo'i ni selsnada .ije li ma'o fy.boi du'e du li mo'a]]'' How can we express "Too many goals means too few accomplishments" in a quantitative form?
*''[[jbocre: fancu le'i nu funca|fancu le'i nu funca]]'' It depends on luck.


==== Proposed Definition ====
==== ckinytadji vlaselcmi ====


With cause... Tags a sumti as fitting the 1st place of rinka.  Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of rinka and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi is caused by the referent of the tagged sumti.
[[jbocre: Math terminology|math terminology]] proposes some technical terms, but it's light on words that are useful in everyday life. I think there are plenty; I'm starting this list. ''mi'e [[jbocre: jezrax|jezrax]]'' (I think [[User:xod|xod]] added most of this.)


====  Proposed Tag ====
* ''selcmi'', ''klesi'' (sets)
** superset - ''selkle''


rinka modal
** set, subset - ''klesi''
** proper subset - ''nalrolmeilei'' (from the [[jbocre: jvoste|jvoste]])


====  See Also ====
**''cmima''      x1 is a member of set x2 [[jbocre: x1 may be a complete or incomplete list of members; x2 is normally marked by la'i/le'i/lo'i, defining the set in terms of its common property(ies), though it may be a complete enumeration of the membership]];
**''gripau''          x1 is a subset of set x2 [[jbocre: girzu pagbu, set-part|girzu pagbu, set-part]]


* {rinka}
** disjoint -
* {ja'e}
** overlapping (with non-empty intersection) -


* {ni'i}
Note: ''klesi'' is a set defined by a rule; ''selcmi'' is a set defined by its membership.
* {mu'i}


* {ki'u}
* ''fancu'' (functions)
* {se ri'a}
** monotonically increasing - ''farstodi zenba''


* {te ri'a}
** monotonically decreasing - ''farstodi jdika''
* {ri'a nai}
** bounded above - ''galseljimte''


* {se ri'a nai}
** bounded below - ''dziseljimte''


====  Proposed Keywords ====
* ''cuncmaci'' (statistics)
** statistically independent -


* cause
** correlated -
* because
**''fadytercu'o'' x1 = cunso3 (set) follows a Gaussian probability distribution with independent variable x2 = cunso


====  Usage Examples ====
* Simple relationships ''(zbepi terki'i)''
**''du''              x1 is identical to x2, x3, x4, ...


''.i le bolci cu farlu ri'a lo nu mi co'u sarji ri''<br />
**''dunli''          x1 is equal/congruent to x2 in/on property/quality/dimension/quantity x3 [[jbocre: same in quantity/quality (not necessarily in identity); 'analogy' may be expressed as the equivalence of two properties of similarity (ka x1 simsa x2) and (ka x3 simsa x4)]] (.ua zo du cu dunli jenai du zo dunli .i le si'o du kei cu du le si'o dunli fi ko le ka bu'a)
**''mleca''          x1 is less than x2 in property/quantity x3 (ka/ni) by amount x4 [[jbocre: also negative (= nonme'a)]];


The ball fell because I stopped holding it up.
**''jdika''          x1 (experiencer) decreases/contracts/is reduced/diminished in property/quantity x2 by amount x3
**''zmadu''          x1 is greater than x2 [[jbocre: also positive (= nonmau)]];


{BOX}
**''zenba''          x1 (experiencer) increases/is incremented/augmented in property/quantity x2 by amount x3
**''dubjavme'a''      x1 is less than or equal to x2 [[jbocre: du ja mleca, equal or less|du ja mleca, equal or less]]


*** or ''nalmau'' x1 is not greater than x2
**''dubjavmau''      x1 is greater than or equal to x2 [[jbocre: du ja zmadu, equal or greater|du ja zmadu, equal or greater]]


===  cmavo: ri'a ma (BAI*) ===
*** or ''nalme'a'' x1 is not less than x2
**''tamdu'i''        x1 is similar to x2 [[jbocre: tarmi dunli, shape-equal|tarmi dunli, shape-equal]]


==== Proposed Definition ====
**''turdu'i''        x1 is isomorphic to x2 [[jbocre: stura dunli, structure-equal|stura dunli, structure-equal]]
**''pabdu'i''        x1 is proportional to x2 [[jbocre: parbi dunli, ratio-equal|parbi dunli, ratio-equal]]


With what cause? Tags a sumti question marker as fitting the first place of rinka.  Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the first place of rinka and then fills it with a sumti question cmavo (ma).  In other words, the tagged sumti asks what physically caused the event described by the bridi. 
**''na'ujbi''        x1 is approximately equal to [[jbocre: namcu jibni, number-near|namcu jibni, number-near]]
**''lamji''          x1 is adjacent/beside/next to/in contact with x2 in property/sequence x3 in direction x4 [[jbocre: also touching, contiguous, against|also touching, contiguous, against]];


====  Proposed Tag ====
* Assorted useful brivla ''(vrici selpli brivla)''


rinka modal question
**fancu          x1 is a function/single-valued mapping from domain x2 to range x3 defined by expression/rule x4 (ru'a le fancu cu cmene le velfancu)
**manri          x1 is a frame of reference/standard for observing/measuring/determining x2, with/by rules x3


====  See Also ====
**ckilu          x1 (si'o) is a scale of units for measuring/observing/determining x2 (state)
**cimde          x1 (property - ka) is a dimension of space/object x2 according to rules/model x3


* {rinka}
**morna          x1 is/reflects/represents a pattern of forms/events x2 arranged according to structure x3 [[jbocre: x3 is a [jbocre: model|model]] for x1 (= termontai, or the more abstract = termonsi'o);
* {ja'e}
**mokca          x1 is a point/instant/moment [[jbocre: 0-dimensional shape/form]] in/on/at time/place x2


* {ni'i}
**linji          x1 is a line/among lines [[jbocre: 1-dimensional shape/form]] defined by set of points x2. [[jbocre: ray/vector (farli'i or porli'i)]]
* {mu'i}
**plita          x1 is a plane [[jbocre: 2-dimensional shape/form]] defined by points x2 (set); x1 is flat/[[jbocre: smooth|smooth]]. [[jbocre: also: x1 is even/planar/level]]; (x2 is a set of points at least sufficient to define the plane)


* {ki'u}
**canlu          x1 is space/volume/region/room [[jbocre: at-least-3-dimensional area]] occupied by x2. [[jbocre: also occupy (= selca'u)]]
* {ri'a}


* {se ri'a}
* Logical Inference (see [[jbocre: logical induction &amp; deduction]])
* {te ri'a}
**deduction: ''nibli, ja'o''


* {ri'a nai}
**induction: ''sucta, su'a''
* {se ri'a nai}
**abduction: ''tolsucta, su'anai''


====  Proposed Keywords ====
----


* With what cause?
==== ckinytadji nalca'ima'o ====
* How?


====  Usage Examples ====
* '''[[jbocre: JAhA + CAI a'axi|JAhA + CAI a'axi]] [[jbocre: NA|NA]]:''' bridi truth value scalar


''mi na djuno lo du'u ri'a ma kau mi cortu le stedu''<br />
* '''[[jbocre: xoi'a|xoi'a]] [[jbocre: PU|PU]]:''' increasing linearly over time
**''la papri xoi'a pelxu'' The page is yellowing.


I don't know why my head hurts.<br />
* '''[[jbocre: xoi'e|xoi'e]] [[jbocre: PU|PU]]:''' exponential increasing
**''do xoi'e lojbo certu''  You're learning Lojban at an exponential rate.


<br />
* Semantically, ''xoi'a''/''xoi'e'' belong in ZAhO, since they deal with change in truth over time. For example, ''co'a'' is change from categorically false to categorically true. ''xoi'a''/''xoi'e'' deal with rates of increase in degree of truth. However, there are several possible rates of increase, and there is also the possibility of decrease, so I think this domain of meaning requires some more comprehensive proposal than simply these two cmavo. --[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]]
 
Artificial:
 
''.i ri'a ma le tsani cu blanu''<br />
 
Why is the sky blue?
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: ri'a nai (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Not caused by... Tags a sumti as not fitting the 1st place of rinka. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of na'e rinka and then fills it with the tagged sumti.  In other words, the event described by the bridi is not caused by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
na'e rinka modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {rinka}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ni'i}
* {mu'i}
 
* {ki'u}
* {ri'a}
 
* {se ri'a}
* {te ri'a}
 
* {ri'a ma}
* {se ri'a nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Not caused by
* Regardles of cause.
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i ma rinka lo nu .ue mi ka'e vasxu se ri'a nai lo nu mrobi'o kei sepi'o nai lo vacri lumci cabra''<br />
 
What caused you to be able to breathe without dying and without using an air-cleaner?<br />
 
<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''.i mi nelci do ri'anai lo za'i do melbi''<br />
 
I like you, but not because you're beautiful.
 
====  Notes ====
 
It should be noted (and this applies to all BAI+nai constructs) that while the above example asserts that "mi nelci do", and it asserts that this isn't a result of "do melbi", it does *not* assert "do melbi" one way or the other.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: se ri'a (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
With result... Tags a sumti as fitting the 2nd place of rinka.  Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 2nd place of rinka and then fills it with the tagged sumti.  In other words, the event described by the bridi is the cause of the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
se rinka modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {rinka}
* {ja'e}
 
* {mu'i}
* {ni'i}
 
* {ki'u}
* {ri'a}
 
* {te ri'a}
* {ri'a ma}
 
* {ri'a nai}
* {se ri'a nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* With result...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i sa'e mi nitcu xa le cacra seri'a le nu mi milxe xamgu pensi .iji'a mi nitcu ze le cacra seri'a le nu mi gleki''<br />
 
Precisely speaking, I need six hours to at least think straight. Additionally, I need seven hours to be happy.<br />
 
(some meaning is lost as it is six hours that may or may not be consecutive, which isn't conveyed in the English. Also, does nitcu have sumti raising like that? I thought se nitcu was an abstract.)<br />
 
<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''.i do darxi mi seri'a lo za'i mi cortu''<br />
 
You hit me, which results in my pain.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: se ri'a nai (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Not resulting in... Tags a sumti as not fitting the 2nd place of rinka. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 2nd place of na'e rinka and then fills it with the tagged sumti.  In other words, the event described by the bridi does not cause the event described by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
na'e se rinka modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {rinka}
* {ja'e}
 
* {mu'i}
* {ni'i}
 
* {ki'u}
* {ri'a}
 
* {se ri'a}
* {te ri'a}
 
* {ri'a ma}
* {ri'a nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Not resulting in...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i mi na morsi seri'anai lo nu ba'o se citka''<br />
 
I am not dead, but that doesn't stop me from being food.<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''.i do darxi le ve tivni seri'anai lonu ri se cikre''<br />
 
You hit the TV, but that doesn't result in it being repaired.<br />
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: te ri'a (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Caused under conditions... Tags a sumti as fitting the 3rd place of rinka.  Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 3rd place of rinka and then fills it with the tagged sumti.  In other words, the event described by the bridi is caused under the conditions described by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
te rinka modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {rinka}
* {ja'e}
 
* {mu'i}
* {ni'i}
 
* {ki'u}
* {ri'a}
 
* {se ri'a}
* {ri'a ma}
 
* {ri'a nai}
* {se ri'a nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Caused under conditions...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''mi mi cinpe'u teri'a lo vamji be lo reki'o rupnu''<br />
 
(this is the only natural example, and I doubt we can use/translate this)<br />
 
<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''.i le karce cu xe klama teri'a loza'i mi bilga lonu klama le zarci''<br />
 
When I have to go to the store, the car is a vehicle.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: ni'i (BAI) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
By logic... Tags a sumti as fitting the 1st place of nibli.  Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of nibli and then fills it with the tagged sumti.  In other words, the event described by the bridi follows logically from the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
nibli modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {nibli}
* {ja'e}
 
* {mu'i}
* {ri'a}
 
* {ki'u}
* {se ni'i}
 
* {te ni'i}
* {ni'i ma}
 
* {ni'i nai}
* {se ni'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* By logic...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''lu coi ro li'u ja'a gendra ni'i lo cizra javni po lo se cusku krasi''<br />
 
"Hello Every" IS grammatically correct, logically because of a crazy rule of an expression source (dictionary?).<br />
 
<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''.i la .platon. mrobi'o ni'i le du'u py remna''<br />
 
Plato dies, which follows logically because he is human.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: ni'i ma (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
By what logic? Tags a sumti question marker as fitting the first place of nibli.  Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the first place of nibli and then fills it with a sumti question cmavo (ma).  In other words, the tagged sumti asks by what logic the event described by the bridi occurs.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
nibli modal question
 
====  See Also:  ====
 
* {nibli}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ri'a}
* {mu'i}
 
* {ki'u}
* {ni'i}
 
* {se ni'i}
* {te ni'i}
 
* {ni'i nai}
* {se ni'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* By what logic?
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''doi james do ni'i ma norsau mi''<br />
 
Hey James, by what logic are you not really familiar with me?<br />
 
<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''do krici lo du'u gendra ni'i ma''<br />
 
"You believe that is grammatical by what logic?"
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: ni'i nai (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Does not logically follow from... Tags a sumti as not fitting the 1st place of nibli. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of nibli and then fills it with the tagged sumti.  In other words, the event described by the bridi does not logically follow from the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
na'e nibli modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {nibli}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ri'a}
* {mu'i}
 
* {ki'u}
* {ni'i}
 
* {se ni'i}
* {te ni'i}
 
* {ni'i ma}
* {se ni'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Does not logically follow from...
* Regardless of logical cause.
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i la'a prenu .i ku'i ni'inai lo se cusku pe la petr.''<br />
 
It's probably a person. However, not logically entailing Peter's expression...<br />
 
(incomplete sentence, the only example that could be found)<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''.i do bilga lonu pilno lo palku kei ni'inai loza'i do nanmu''<br />
 
Your being obliged to wear pants doesn't logically follow from the state of your being a man.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: se ni'i (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Logically therefore... Tags a sumti as fitting the 2nd place of nibli.  Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 2nd place of nibli and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi logically leads to the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
se nibli modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {nibli}
* {ja'e}
 
* {mu'i}
* {ri'a}
 
* {ki'u}
* {ni'i}
 
* {te ni'i}
* {ni'i ma}
 
* {ni'i nai}
* {se ni'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Logically therefore...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i se ni'i ri cusku no da poi lojbo''<br />
 
Because of that, nothing lojbanic is expressed.
 
====  Notes ====
 
The example used doesn't contain a main selbri. -previous example-er
 
Nuu... There's a main selbri, because {ri} sticks to se ni'i, and cusku is the main selbri. (se ni'i (ri] (x1) cusku (x2 = no da (poi lojbo] -Lindar
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: se ni'i nai (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Does not logically entail... Tags a sumti as not fitting the 2nd place of nibli. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 2nd place of nibli and then fills it with the tagged sumti.  In other words, the event described by the bridi does not logically entail the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
na'e se nibli modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {nibli}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ri'a}
* {mu'i}
 
* {ki'u}
* {ni'i}
 
* {se ni'i}
* {te ni'i}
 
* {ni'i ma}
* {ni'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Does not logically entail...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''lo gerku lo plini cu simsa le ka barda .i se ni'i nai bo ri xi re ri xi ci simsa le ka barda''<br />
 
Dogs are similar to planets in size; it does not therefore follow that planets are similar to dogs in size.<br />
 
(I don't actually have any idea what this person was talking about, but this is a real usage, very slightly modified.)
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: te ni'i (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Under logic system... Tags a sumti as fitting the 3rd place of nibli. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 3rd place of nibli and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi occurs under the logic system described by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
te nibli modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {nibli}
* {ja'e}
 
* {mu'i}
* {ri'a}
 
* {ki'u}
* {ni'i}
 
* {se ni'i}
* {ni'i ma}
 
* {ni'i nai}
* {se ni'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Under logic system...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''do zvati naje jundi teni'i zu'i''<br />
 
You don't attend, you pay attention, under the typical logic.<br />
 
(talking about IRC, I assume)<br />
 
<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''li pa pi'i pa du li pa te ni'i lo cmaci''<br />
 
One times one is one, according to mathematics.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: mu'i (BAI) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Because of motive... Tags a sumti as fitting the 1st place of mukti. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of mukti and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi occurs because of the motive described by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
mukti modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* mukti
* {ja'e}
 
* {ni'i}
* {ri'a}
 
* {ki'u}
* {se mu'i}
 
* {te mu'i}
* {mu'i ma}
 
* {mu'i nai}
* {se mu'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Because of motive...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i mi cliva mu'i le nu samru'e kelci gi'e sipna do'e le mi se prami''<br />
 
I leave motivated by computer gaming and sleeping with my beloved.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: mu'i ma (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
With what motive? Tags a sumti question marker as fitting the first place of mukti.  Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the first place of mukti and then fills it with a sumti question cmavo (ma).  In other words, the tagged sumti asks with what motive the event described by the bridi occurs.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
mukti modal question
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {mukti}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ri'a}
* {ni'i}
 
* {ki'u}
* {mu'i}
 
* {se mu'i}
* {te mu'i}
 
* {mu'i nai}
* {se mu'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* With what motive?
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i do reisku mu'i ma''
 
Why do you ask?
 
===  cmavo: mu'i nai (BAI*) ===
 
===  Proposed Definition ===
 
Not motivated by... Tags a sumti as not fitting the 1st place of mukti. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of mukti and then fills it with the tagged sumti.  In other words, the event described by the bridi is not motivated by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
na'e mukti modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {mukti}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ri'a}
* {ni'i}
 
* {ki'u}
* {mu'i}
 
* {se mu'i}
* {te mu'i}
 
* {mu'i ma}
* {se mu'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Not motivated by...
* Regardless of motivation.
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''mi gleki le nu tavla do kei mu'i nai le cmalu temci''<br />
 
I like talking to you, regardless of the short amount of time.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: se mu'i (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Motive therefore... Tags a sumti as fitting the 2nd place of mukti. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 2nd place of mukti and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi is the motive behind the event described by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
se mukti modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {mukti}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ni'i}
* {ri'a}
 
* {ki'u}
* {mu'i}
 
* {te mu'i}
* {mu'i ma}
 
* {mu'i nai}
* {se mu'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Motive therefore...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i mi mutce xagji se mu'i le nu mi pu'o citka'' (Modified from original.)<br />
 
I'm very hungry, which motivates that I am about to eat.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: se mu'i nai (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Not motive for... Tags a sumti as not fitting the 2nd place of mukti. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 2nd place of mukti and then fills it with the tagged sumti.  In other words, the event described by the bridi is not the motive for the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
na'e se mukti modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {mukti}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ri'a}
* {ni'i}
 
* {ki'u}
* {mu'i}
 
* {se mu'i}
* {te mu'i}
 
* {mu'i ma}
* {mu'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Not motive for...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
(no natural examples)<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''mi cliva se mu'i nai lo nu do klaku''<br />
 
I'm leaving, but you don't have to cry.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: te mu'i (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Motive of person... Tags a sumti as fitting the 3rd place of mukti. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 3rd place of mukti and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi is somehow motivated by or motivates the person indicated by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
te mukti modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {mukti}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ni'i}
* {ri'a}
 
* {ki'u}
* {mu'i}
 
* {se mu'i}
* {mu'i ma}
 
* {mu'i nai}
* {se mu'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Motive of person...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''temu'i mi do klama''<br />
 
You leave because of me.<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''mi klama le zarci te mu'i le mi mamta''<br />
 
I go to the store because of/to motivate my mom.<br />
 
(The English gloss is incurably unspecific in both examples.)
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: ki'u (BAI) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Because of reason... Tags a sumti as fitting the 1st place of krinu. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of krinu and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi occurs for the reason indicated by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
krinu modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {krinu}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ni'i}
* {ri'a}
 
* {mu'i}
* {se ki'u}
 
* {ki'u ma}
* {ki'u nai}
 
* {se ku'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Because of reason...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i mi nelci la lojban ki'u lenu mi pensi ta'i le pe'a lojbo''<br />
 
I like lojban because I think in a figuratively lojbanic manner.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: ki'u ma (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
With what reason? Tags a sumti question marker as fitting the first place of krinu.  Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the first place of krinu and then fills it with a sumti question cmavo (ma).  In other words, the tagged sumti asks with what reason the event described by the bridi occurs.  See also: krinu, ja'e, ri'a, mu'i, ni'i, ki'u, se ki'u, ki'u nai, se ku'i nai.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
krinu modal question
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {krinu}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ni'i}
* {ri'a}
 
* {mu'i}
* {se ki'u}
 
* {ki'u ma}
* {ki'u nai}
 
* {se ku'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* With what reason?
* Why?
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i ki'u ma do cusku zo co'o''<br />
 
Why do you say goodbye?
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: ki'u nai (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Without reason... Tags a sumti as not fitting the 1st place of krinu. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of krinu and then fills it with the tagged sumti.  In other words, the event described by the bridi is not reasonably justified by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
na'e krinu modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {krinu}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ri'a}
* {ni'i}
 
* {ni'i}
* {ki'u}
 
* {se ki'u}
* {ki'u ma}
 
* {se ku'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Without reason...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''mi selsau zo slabu na ki'u nai lo za'i mi so'i roi cilre''<br />
 
I'm familiar with "slabu" and not without the reason I often study.<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''la uest cu se nabmi ge ki'u nai lo nu .u bu mitcinpa'i nanmu gi ki'u lo nu .u bu simlu lo ka djica lo nu pilno lo nu catni fi lo gubni jibri kei lo nu cpedu lo cinse nu selfu''<br />
 
"West is in trouble not because he is a gay man, but because he is a man who was apparently willing to use the power of his public office to solicit sexual favors."
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: se ki'u (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Reasonably therefore... Tags a sumti as fitting the 2nd place of krinu. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 2nd place of krinu and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi is the reason behind the event described by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
se krinu modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {krinu}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ni'i}
* {ri'a}
 
* {mu'i}
* {ki'u}
 
* {ki'u ma}
* {ki'u nai}
 
* {se ku'i nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Reasonably therefore...
* thereby....
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i mi ca gunka penmi seki'u le nu masno spuda'' (Slightly modified.)<br />
 
I am at a work meeting, which is the reason for my slow replies.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: se ki'u nai (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Not a reason to... Tags a sumti as not fitting the 2nd place of krinu. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 2nd place of krinu and then fills it with the tagged sumti.  In other words, the event described by the bridi is not the reason for the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
na'e se krinu modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {krinu}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ri'a}
* {ni'i}
 
* {mu'i}
* {ki'u}
 
* {se ki'u}
* {ki'u ma}
 
* {ki'u nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Not a reason to...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i se ki'u nai bo mi jai bandu le nobli ke lojbo bangu lo vlatai zekri'' (Slightly modified.)<br />
 
Regardless of that reason, I defend the noble Lojban language against word-shape crimes.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: bai (BAI) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Compelled by... Tags a sumti as fitting the 1st place of bapli. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of bapli and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi is compelled by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
bapli modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {bapli)
* {se bai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Compelled by...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i za'a bai lo skami mi nalviska le se cinri nu casnu'' (Rather modified.)<br />
 
Apparently, the computer compels me to not see the interesting discussion.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: se bai (BAI*) ===
 
===  Proposed Definition ===
 
Forcing result... Tags a sumti as fitting the 2nd place of bapli. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 2nd place of bapli and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi compels the result described by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
se bapli modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {bapli}
* {bai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Forcing result
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
(no natural example)<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''mi darxi le bolci se bai lo nu ri gunro farlu fi le gapru traji mokca be le cmalu cmana''<br />
 
I hit the ball forcing it to roll down from the top of the hill.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: fau (BAI) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
In the event of... Tags a sumti as fitting the 1st place of fasnu. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of fasnu and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi is associated with an event described by referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
fasnu modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {fasnu}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* In the event of...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''le nakni cu co'a cpana le fetsi fau lo nu le nakpinji cu ranti''<br />
 
The guy starts being on top of the girl and experiences his penis being soft.<br />
 
(Can I seriously use this?)<br />
 
alt:<br />
 
''i ko spuda mrilu mi po'o fau lenu do tcidu je jimpe ti''<br />
 
Reply-mail to me only when you read and understand this.<br />
 
<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''.i fau le nu mi sanli binxo kei mi cusku le se du'u mo'u citka''<br />
 
With the event of standing up, I express that the eating is over.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: sau (BAI) ===
 
====  Proposed definition ====
 
Requiring... Tags a sumti as fitting the 1st place of sarcu. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of sarcu and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi requires the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
sarcu modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {sarcu}
* {se sau}
 
* {te sau}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Requiring...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
(no natural example)<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''.i do nenri sau tu'a le ckiku valsi''<br />
 
You enter, with requirement the key word.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: se sau (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Required for... Tags a sumti as fitting the 2nd place of sarcu. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 2nd place of sarcu and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi is required for the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
se sarcu modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {sarcu}
* {sau}
 
* {te sau}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Required for...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i .e'o ko sanli vi le serti se sau le nu mi fi do badgau'' (Slightly modified.)<br />
 
Please stand at the stairs, which is required for my defending you.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: te sau (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Required under conditions... Tags a sumti as fitting the 3rd place of sarcu. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 3rd place of sarcu and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi is required under the conditions described by the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
te sarcu modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {sarcu}
* {sau}
 
* {se sau}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Required under conditions...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
Artificial:
 
''mi klama le briju te sau lo nu mi gunka''<br />
 
I go to the office as required by my work.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: ja'e (BAI) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Therefore result... Tags a sumti as fitting the 1st place of jalge. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of jalge and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi results from the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
jalge modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {jalge}
* {se ja'e}
 
* {ja'e nai}
* {se ja'e nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Therefore result...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i le li'i clupa nu casnu bau roda ja'e node cu rinka'' (Slightly modified.)<br />
 
The experience of a looping discussion in all languages which results in nothing is the cause.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: ja'e nai (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Without result... Tags a sumti as not fitting the 1st place of jalge. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of jalge and then fills it with the tagged sumti.  In other words, the event described by the bridi does not result in the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
na'e jalge modal
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Without result...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i ja'e nai bo mi na ka'e sipna''<br />
 
Regardless of this, I am not able to sleep.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: se ja'e (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Results because ... Tags a sumti as fitting the 2nd place of jalge. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 2nd place of jalge and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi results because of the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
se jalge modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {jalge}
* {ja'e}
 
* {ja'e nai}
* {se ja'e nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Results because...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''mi binxo lo perli se ja'e lo nu mi citka lo perli''<br />
 
I become a pear because I eat a pear.<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''mi cadzu se ja'e lo nu mi na ponse lo karce''<br />
 
I walk because I don't own a car.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: se ja'e nai (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Results not because... Tags a sumti as not fitting the 2nd place of jalge. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 2nd place of jalge and then fills it with the tagged sumti.  In other words, the event described by the bridi is not the reason for the referent of the tagged sumti.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
na'e se jalge modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {jalge}
* {ja'e}
 
* {se ja'e}
* {ja'e nai}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Results not because...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
(no natural example available)<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''mi cadzu se ja'e nai lo nu mi na ponse lo karce''<br />
 
I walk, but not because I don't own a car.<br />
 
I walk regardless of whether or not I own a car.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: va'o (BAI) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Under conditions... Tags a sumti as fitting the 1st place of vanbi. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 1st place of vanbi and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi occurs under the conditions described by the tagged sumti.  See also: vanbi, se va'o.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
vanbi modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {vanbi}
* {se va'o}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* Under conditions...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.i .e'o ko na damba va'o le nu rodo na kakne le nu damba bau la lojban.''<br />
 
Under the conditions of y'all not being able to fight in lojban, please don't fight.
 
{BOX}
 
 
===  cmavo: se va'o (BAI*) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
As conditions for... Tags a sumti as fitting the 2nd place of vanbi. Augments the bridi in which it occurs, adding an extra place with the meaning of the 2nd place of vanbi and then fills it with the tagged sumti. In other words, the event described by the bridi is the condition under which the referent of the tagged sumti occurs.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
se vanbi modal
 
====  See Also ====
 
* {vanbi}
* {va'o}
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
* As conditions for...
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
''.ei dai lo prenu ma cinmo se va'o lo nu te vecnu''<br />
 
What should a person feel when being sold something?<br />
 
<br />
 
Artificial:
 
''la .bais. cu mulno se va'o lo nu la camgusmis cu gleki''<br />
 
The BAI sections are complete as a condition for Robin (camgusmis) being happy.
 
{BOX}
 
==  Notes ==
 
==  Impact ==
 
There exists a contradiction between the CLL and the ma'oste about the meaning of BAInai WRT causals. The interpretation we are using (explicated in the preface section) here for "ri'a nai" and such matches with that found in the CLL (Chapter 9, Section 13). To get the meaning shown in the ma'oste (despite...), it is suggested to use e.g. to'eri'anai instead of ri'anai.
 
This is shown as the following:
 
* ri'a == with cause
* ri'anai == not with cause (regardless of cause)
 
* to'eri'a == prevented by
* to'eri'anai == not prevented by (despite)
 
==  Poll ==
 
{POLL(pollId=>17)}BPFK Poll: Causation sumtcita{POLL}

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Toward a quantitative form of Lojban

ckinytadji selsku

ckinytadji vlaselcmi

math terminology proposes some technical terms, but it's light on words that are useful in everyday life. I think there are plenty; I'm starting this list. mi'e jezrax (I think xod added most of this.)

  • selcmi, klesi (sets)
    • superset - selkle
    • set, subset - klesi
    • proper subset - nalrolmeilei (from the jvoste)
    • disjoint -
    • overlapping (with non-empty intersection) -

Note: klesi is a set defined by a rule; selcmi is a set defined by its membership.

  • fancu (functions)
    • monotonically increasing - farstodi zenba
    • monotonically decreasing - farstodi jdika
    • bounded above - galseljimte
    • bounded below - dziseljimte
  • cuncmaci (statistics)
    • statistically independent -
    • correlated -
    • fadytercu'o x1 = cunso3 (set) follows a Gaussian probability distribution with independent variable x2 = cunso
  • Simple relationships (zbepi terki'i)
    • du x1 is identical to x2, x3, x4, ...
    • jdika x1 (experiencer) decreases/contracts/is reduced/diminished in property/quantity x2 by amount x3
    • zmadu x1 is greater than x2 jbocre: also positive (= nonmau);
    • zenba x1 (experiencer) increases/is incremented/augmented in property/quantity x2 by amount x3
    • dubjavme'a x1 is less than or equal to x2 du ja mleca, equal or less
  • Assorted useful brivla (vrici selpli brivla)
    • fancu x1 is a function/single-valued mapping from domain x2 to range x3 defined by expression/rule x4 (ru'a le fancu cu cmene le velfancu)
    • manri x1 is a frame of reference/standard for observing/measuring/determining x2, with/by rules x3
    • ckilu x1 (si'o) is a scale of units for measuring/observing/determining x2 (state)
    • cimde x1 (property - ka) is a dimension of space/object x2 according to rules/model x3
    • morna x1 is/reflects/represents a pattern of forms/events x2 arranged according to structure x3 [[jbocre: x3 is a [jbocre: model|model]] for x1 (= termontai, or the more abstract = termonsi'o);
    • mokca x1 is a point/instant/moment jbocre: 0-dimensional shape/form in/on/at time/place x2
    • induction: sucta, su'a
    • abduction: tolsucta, su'anai

ckinytadji nalca'ima'o

  • xoi'a PU: increasing linearly over time
    • la papri xoi'a pelxu The page is yellowing.
  • xoi'e PU: exponential increasing
    • do xoi'e lojbo certu You're learning Lojban at an exponential rate.
  • Semantically, xoi'a/xoi'e belong in ZAhO, since they deal with change in truth over time. For example, co'a is change from categorically false to categorically true. xoi'a/xoi'e deal with rates of increase in degree of truth. However, there are several possible rates of increase, and there is also the possibility of decrease, so I think this domain of meaning requires some more comprehensive proposal than simply these two cmavo. --And Rosta
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