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= ''selma'o zi'evla'' =
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'''This is still a draft and may change drastically without warning. Especially the algorithms are horrible spaghetti code and need to be revised.'''
 
There is still no good way to refer to ''selma'o'' in Lojban.
 
It is proposed to create ''zi'evla'' for all ''selma'o''. The main purpose of these ''zi'evla'' to provide an easy way and straight-forward way to refer to ''selma'o''. The ''zi'evla'' will thus have a definition of the form “x1 is the selma'o <WHATEVER>”.
 
All these ''zi'evla'' will be stage-3 ''zi'evla'' that base on “cmavo”. Currently (as of 25th of July 2013), on jbovlaste there are no type-3 ''zi'evla'' whatsoever that base on “cmavo”, so this seems to be a pretty safe choice. “cmavo” is chosen as because “selma'o” is derived from “cmavo”.
 
The resulting ''zi'evla'' refer to the “main” ''selma'o'', which includes all its sub-classes / “sub-''selma'o''”. For subclasses, another alhorithm is needed. Here is the list of the lojbanized ''selma'o zi'evla'':
== list of ''selma'o zi'evla'' ==
<pre>
A cmavrxavo
BAI cmavrbai
BAhE cmavrba'e
BE cmavrbe
BEI cmavrbei
BEhO cmavrbe'o
BIhE cmavrbi'e
BIhI cmavrbi'i
BO cmavrbo
BOI cmavrboi
BU cmavrbu
BY cmavrlerfu
CAI cmavrcai
CAhA cmavrca'a
CEI cmavrcei
CEhE cmavrce'e
CO cmavrco
COI cmavrcoi
CU cmavrcu
CUhE cmavrcu'e
DAhO cmavrda'o
DOI cmavrdoi
DOhU cmavrdo'u
FA cmavrfa
FAhA cmavrfa'a
FAhO cmavrfa'o
FEhE cmavrfe'e
FEhU cmavrfe'u
FIhO cmavrfi'o
FOI cmavrfoi
FUhA cmavrfu'a
FUhE cmavrfu'e
FUhO cmavrfu'o
GA cmavrga
GAhO cmavrga'o
GEhU cmavrge'u
GI cmavrgi
GIhA cmavrgi'a
GOI cmavrgoi
GOhA cmavrgo'a
GUhA cmavrgu'a
I cmavrxivo
JA cmavrja
JAI cmavrjai
JOI cmavrjoi
JOhI cmavrjo'i
KE cmavrke
KEI cmavrkei
KEhE cmavrke'e
KI cmavrki
KOhA cmavrko'a
KU cmavrku
KUhE cmavrku'e
KUhO cmavrku'o
LA cmavrla
LAU cmavrlau
LAhE cmavrla'e
LE cmavrle
LEhU cmavrle'u
LI cmavrli
LIhU cmavrli'u
LOhO cmavrlo'o
LOhU cmavrlo'u
LU cmavrlu
LUhU cmavrlu'u
MAI cmavrmai
MAhO cmavrma'o
ME cmavrme
MEhU cmavrme'u
MOI cmavrmoi
MOhE cmavrmo'e
MOhI cmavrmo'i
NA cmavrna
NAI cmavrnai
NAhE cmavrna'e
NAhU cmavrna'u
NIhE cmavrni'e
NIhO cmavrni'o
NOI cmavrnoi
NU cmavrnu
NUhA cmavrnu'a
NUhI cmavrnu'i
NUhU cmavrnu'u
PA cmavrpa
PEhE cmavrpe'e
PEhO cmavrpe'o
PU cmavrpu
RAhO cmavnra'o
ROI cmavnroi
SA cmavrsa
SE cmavrse
SEI cmavrsei
SEhU cmavrse'u
SI cmavrsi
SOI cmavrsoi
SU cmavrsu
TAhE cmavrta'e
TEI cmavrtei
TEhU cmavrte'u
TO cmavrto
TOI cmavrtoi
TUhE cmavrtu'e
TUhU cmavrtu'u
UI cmavrui
VA cmavrva
VAU cmavrvau
VEI cmavrvei
VEhA cmavrve'a
VEhO cmavrve'o
VIhA cmavrvi'a
VUhO cmavrvu'o
VUhU cmavrvu'u
XI cmavrxi
Y cmavrdepsna
ZAhO cmavrza'o
ZEI cmavrzei
ZEhA cmavrze'a
ZI cmavrzi
ZIhE cmavrzi'e
ZO cmavrzo
ZOI cmavrzoi
ZOhE cmavrzo'e
</pre>
 
=== How to remember ===
If you already memorized the English ''selma'o'' names, memorizing the ''selma'o zi'evla'' should be a piece of cake for you. These are the rules to remember the ''selma'o zi'evla'':
* The ''selma'o'' “UI” translates to “cmavrui”.
* If the ''selma'o'' is not “UI” and does not contain a “Y” in it, the result depends on the last letter of the original ''selma'o'' name:
** “R” → “cmavn“ + selma'o
** “A”,“E”,“I”,“O”,“U” → “cmavrx” + selma'o + “vo”
** everything else → “cmavr” + selma'o
* If the ''selma'o'' name does have a “Y” in it, a ''brivla'' which decribes the ''selma'o'' at best is used.
** “BY” translates to “cmavrlerfu” (from “lerfu”)
** “Y” translates to “cmavrdepspa” (from “depspa”)
 
'''Rough rule:''' The vast majority of these ''zi'evla'' are “cmavr” with the lower-cased ''selma'o'' name appended to it.
 
 
== Algorithms to generate the above list ==
=== Algorithm to generate ''zi'evla'' from the existing ''selma'o'' names ===
# Take the name of the ''selma'o'' and write it in lower case. Convert “h” to “'”. Let’s call it “it”.
# Does it contain a “y”? If yes, go to step 9. If not, go to step 3.
# Does it begin with one of “a”, “e”, “o”, “u”, “i”? If yes, go to step 6. If not, go to step 4.
# Does it begin with a “r”? If yes, go to step 7. Else go to 5.
# Your '' zi'evla'' is: “cmavr” + it. You’re done.
# If your selma'o is “UI”, go to 11. If not, go to 12.
# Your ''zi'evla'' is: “cmavn” + it. You’re done.
# Forget the word you obtained in step 1.
# Think of an existing brivla which best descibes the selma'o. Let’s call it “it”. It must not have a “y” in it. Remember that you went past this step.
# Go to 4.
# Your ''zi'evla'' is “cmavrui”. You’re done.
# Your ''zi'evla'' is: “cmavrx” + it + “vo”. You’re done.
 
== Algorithms to fill the jbovlaste fields ==
=== definition ===
# Write “$x_1$ is the ''selma'o'' ‘<English selma'o name goes here>’.”.
 
=== etymology ===
# Did you pass step 9 of the above ''selma'o''-to-''zi'evla'' algorithm? If yes, go to 3, else go to step 2.
# The etymology is: “Made from {cmavo} and the selma'o name <Name goes here> written in lower case.”
# The etymology is: “Made from {cmavo} and lojban <gismu/lujvo/valsi/cmavo/whatever> {<used valsi goes here>}.”
 
=== Gloss Word #1 ===
# Write “<English ''selma'o'' name>” in sense “selma'o”.
 
=== Place Keywords ===
# Leave empty.
 
== Subclasses ==
To generate ''zi'evla'' for the sub-classes, use this algorithm:
 
# Is the “sub-''selma'o''” name the same as the ''selma'o'' name? If yes, go to 2. If no, go to 3.
# Your ''zi'evla'' for the “sub-''selma'o''” is “xino'o” appended to the old ''zi'evla''.
# Append “xi” to the old ''zi'evla''.
# Convert “0”, “1”, “2”, “3”, “4”, “5”, “6”, “7”, “8”, “9” to “no”, “pa”, “re”, “ci”, “vo”, “mu”, “xa”, “ze”, “bi”, “so”, respectively. Append the lojbanized digits.
# If there are remaining small letters in the sub-class name, go to 6, else you’re done.
# For a consonant, translate it to <consonant> + “o”. For a vowel, translate it to “'” + <vowel>
 
=== Result for UI ===
<pre>
UI1 cmavruixipa
UI2 cmavruixire
UI3a cmavruixici'a
UI3b cmavruixicibo
UI3c cmavruixicico
UI4 cmavruixivo
UI5 cmavruiximu
UI6 cmavruixixa
UI7 cmavruixize
</pre>
 
=== For NU ===
<pre>
NU cmavrnuxino'o
NU1 cmavrnuxipa
</pre>
 
=== For KOhA ===
<pre>
KOhA1 cmavrko'axipa
KOhA2 cmavrko'axire
KOhA3 cmavrko'axici
KOhA4 cmavrko'axivo
KOhA5 cmavrko'aximu
KOhA6 cmavrko'axixa
KOhA7 cmavrko'axize
KOhA8 cmavrko'axibi
</pre>
 
=== For BY ===
<pre>
BY1 cmavrlerfuxipa
BY2 cmavrlerfuxire
</pre>
 
=== For FAhA ===
<pre>
FAhA1 cmavrfa'axipa
FAhA2 cmavrfa'axire
FAhA3 cmavrfa'axici
FAhA4 cmavrfa'axivo
</pre>
 
=== For PA ===
<pre>
PA1 cmavrpaxipa
PA2 cmavrpaxire
PA3 cmavrpaxici
PA4 cmavrpaxivo
PA5 cmavrpaximu
</pre>
 
=== For VUhO ===
<pre>
VUhO0 cmavrvu'oxino
VUhO1 cmavrvu'oxipa
VUhO2 cmavrvu'oxire
VUhO3 cmavrvu'oxici
VUhO4 cmavrvu'oxivo
</pre>
 
== Example ''selma'o zi'evla'' ==
Let’s take “cmavrbai” (which stands for “BAI”) as an example for a ''selma'o zi'evla''. This is how the fields on jbovlaste should look like, created using the algorithms mentioned earlier:
 
* Word: “cmavrbai”.
* Definition: “x<sub>1</sub> is the selma'o BAI.”
* Etymology: “Made from {cmavo} and the selma'o name ‘BAI’ written in lower case.”
* Gloss words: “‘BAI’ in the sense of ‘selma'o’”
* Place words: ''(empty)''
 
== Example sentence ==
“zo dau cmavo lo cmavrpa” translates to “‘dau’ is in the ''selma'o'' ‘PA’.”.

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