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<code>[10:22] <vensa> ma jdima lonu curmi doi tomoj
<code>[[jbocre: 10:22|10:22]] <vensa> ma jdima lonu curmi doi tomoj
[10:22] <tomoj> is there a vague PA
[[jbocre: 10:22|10:22]] <tomoj> is there a vague PA
[10:22] <selckiku> i don't mind "malgli", that's a fine way to say it, it just makes me wonder
[[jbocre: 10:22|10:22]] <selckiku> i don't mind "malgli", that's a fine way to say it, it just makes me wonder
[10:23] <vensa> selckiku: the bomb is about to go off :)
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> selckiku: the bomb is about to go off :)
[10:23] <vensa> tomoj: ji'i
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> tomoj: ji'i
[10:23] <selckiku> huh, a vague pa, that's a cool idea, there isn't is there??
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <selckiku> huh, a vague pa, that's a cool idea, there isn't is there??
[10:23] <vensa> ji'i
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> ji'i
[10:23] <tomoj> hmm
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <tomoj> hmm
[10:23] <tomoj> the thing is, I don't even know the number
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <tomoj> the thing is, I don't even know the number
[10:23] <tomoj> nor whether it's typical
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <tomoj> nor whether it's typical
[10:23] <vensa> you can use {za'u}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> you can use {za'u}
[10:23] <tomoj> I just know it's in the hundreds
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <tomoj> I just know it's in the hundreds
[10:23] <vensa> or {su'o}
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <vensa> or {su'o}
[10:23] <selckiku> "ji'i" makes any PA a little vaguer, you can't use it on its own can you?
[[jbocre: 10:23|10:23]] <selckiku> "ji'i" makes any PA a little vaguer, you can't use it on its own can you?
[10:24] <vensa> so {za'u panono}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <vensa> so {za'u panono}
[10:24] <tomoj> so I was thinking "XX no no"
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> so I was thinking "XX no no"
[10:24] <vensa> selckiku: y not?
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <vensa> selckiku: y not?
[10:24] <selckiku> i dunno, i'd just never seen it
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <selckiku> i dunno, i'd just never seen it
[10:24] <tomoj> well..
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> well..
[10:24] <selckiku> what selma'o is zo ji'i anyway
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <selckiku> what selma'o is zo ji'i anyway
[10:24] <selckiku> zo ji'i cmavo ma
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <selckiku> zo ji'i cmavo ma
[10:24] <tomoj> 10000 is {za'u pa no no}, isn't it?
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> 10000 is {za'u pa no no}, isn't it?
[10:24] <tomoj> valsi: ji'i
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> valsi: ji'i
[10:24] <valsi> ji'i = digit/number: approximately (default the typical value in this context) (number).
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <valsi> ji'i = digit/number: approximately (default the typical value in this context) (number).
[10:24] <vensa> tomoj: you can try {xo paunai no no}
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <vensa> tomoj: you can try {xo paunai no no}
[10:24] <tomoj> it's PA
[[jbocre: 10:24|10:24]] <tomoj> it's PA
[10:25] <selckiku> ok then, i guess {li ji'i} is a pretty vague number then
[[jbocre: 10:25|10:25]] <selckiku> ok then, i guess {li ji'i} is a pretty vague number then
[10:26] <vensa> selckiku: is {za'u panono} = "more than one hunderd" or "10000"?
[[jbocre: 10:26|10:26]] <vensa> selckiku: is {za'u panono} = "more than one hunderd" or "10000"?
[10:26] <vensa> valsi za'u
[[jbocre: 10:26|10:26]] <vensa> valsi za'u
[10:26] <valsi> za'u = digit/number: greater than.
[[jbocre: 10:26|10:26]] <valsi> za'u = digit/number: greater than.
[10:26] <selckiku> 10000 is more than 100, sure
[[jbocre: 10:26|10:26]] <selckiku> 10000 is more than 100, sure
[10:27] <vensa> yeah but what is the meaning of the lojban?
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> yeah but what is the meaning of the lojban?
[10:27] <vensa> oh wait
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> oh wait
[10:27] <vensa> nm.
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> nm.
[10:27] <vensa> tomoj wasnt arguing with me
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> tomoj wasnt arguing with me
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[10:27] <vensa> I was including "10000" as a referent of {za'u panono}
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <vensa> I was including "10000" as a referent of {za'u panono}
[10:27] <selckiku> it's a somewhat unusual meaning of za'upanono but it depends on the context
[[jbocre: 10:27|10:27]] <selckiku> it's a somewhat unusual meaning of za'upanono but it depends on the context
[10:28] <tomoj> I want X00 where X is a single digit 1-9
[[jbocre: 10:28|10:28]] <tomoj> I want X00 where X is a single digit 1-9
[10:28] <vensa> doi tomoj no'i xu do kakne lonu se pendo lo mlatu poi bartu
[[jbocre: 10:28|10:28]] <vensa> doi tomoj no'i xu do kakne lonu se pendo lo mlatu poi bartu
[10:28] <vensa> tomoj: then you need a regex :P
[[jbocre: 10:28|10:28]] <vensa> tomoj: then you need a regex :P
[10:28]  * ctino is going to try connecting with a real IRC client and will return soon
[[jbocre: 10:28|10:28]]  * ctino is going to try connecting with a real IRC client and will return soon
[10:29] <vensa> yay! citno
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> yay! citno
[10:29] <vensa> *Ctino
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> *Ctino
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[10:29] <tomoj> hmm, is there enough cmavo space open to translate regex into lojban? :)
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <tomoj> hmm, is there enough cmavo space open to translate regex into lojban? :)
[10:29] <vensa> hah
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> hah
[10:29] <vensa> valsi bo'o
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> valsi bo'o
[10:29] <valsi> boxfo = x1 is a sheet/foil/blanket [[jbocre: 2-dimensional shape/form flexible in 3 dimensions|2-dimensional shape/form flexible in 3 dimensions]] of material x2.
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <valsi> boxfo = x1 is a sheet/foil/blanket [[jbocre: 2-dimensional shape/form flexible in 3 dimensions|2-dimensional shape/form flexible in 3 dimensions]] of material x2.
[10:29] <vensa> valsi no'o
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> valsi no'o
[10:29] <valsi> no'o = digit/number: typical/average value.
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <valsi> no'o = digit/number: typical/average value.
[10:29] <selckiku> the cmavo space is rather busy, really
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <selckiku> the cmavo space is rather busy, really
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[10:29] <vensa> how about {no'o no no}?
[[jbocre: 10:29|10:29]] <vensa> how about {no'o no no}?
[10:30] <vensa> if anything, it sounds hillarious</code>
[[jbocre: 10:30|10:30]] <vensa> if anything, it sounds hillarious</code>

Revision as of 14:30, 21 March 2014

[10:22] <vensa> ma jdima lonu curmi doi tomoj [10:22] <tomoj> is there a vague PA [10:22] <selckiku> i don't mind "malgli", that's a fine way to say it, it just makes me wonder [10:23] <vensa> selckiku: the bomb is about to go off :) [10:23] <vensa> tomoj: ji'i [10:23] <selckiku> huh, a vague pa, that's a cool idea, there isn't is there?? [10:23] <vensa> ji'i [10:23] <tomoj> hmm [10:23] <tomoj> the thing is, I don't even know the number [10:23] <tomoj> nor whether it's typical [10:23] <vensa> you can use {za'u} [10:23] <tomoj> I just know it's in the hundreds [10:23] <vensa> or {su'o} [10:23] <selckiku> "ji'i" makes any PA a little vaguer, you can't use it on its own can you? [10:24] <vensa> so {za'u panono} [10:24] <tomoj> so I was thinking "XX no no" [10:24] <vensa> selckiku: y not? [10:24] <selckiku> i dunno, i'd just never seen it [10:24] <tomoj> well.. [10:24] <selckiku> what selma'o is zo ji'i anyway [10:24] <selckiku> zo ji'i cmavo ma [10:24] <tomoj> 10000 is {za'u pa no no}, isn't it? [10:24] <tomoj> valsi: ji'i [10:24] <valsi> ji'i = digit/number: approximately (default the typical value in this context) (number). [10:24] <vensa> tomoj: you can try {xo paunai no no} [10:24] <tomoj> it's PA [10:25] <selckiku> ok then, i guess {li ji'i} is a pretty vague number then [10:26] <vensa> selckiku: is {za'u panono} = "more than one hunderd" or "10000"? [10:26] <vensa> valsi za'u [10:26] <valsi> za'u = digit/number: greater than. [10:26] <selckiku> 10000 is more than 100, sure [10:27] <vensa> yeah but what is the meaning of the lojban? [10:27] <vensa> oh wait [10:27] <vensa> nm. [10:27] <vensa> tomoj wasnt arguing with me [10:27] == bortzmeyer ~bortzmeye@batilda.nic.fr has quit Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:27] <vensa> I was including "10000" as a referent of {za'u panono} [10:27] <selckiku> it's a somewhat unusual meaning of za'upanono but it depends on the context [10:28] <tomoj> I want X00 where X is a single digit 1-9 [10:28] <vensa> doi tomoj no'i xu do kakne lonu se pendo lo mlatu poi bartu [10:28] <vensa> tomoj: then you need a regex :P [10:28] * ctino is going to try connecting with a real IRC client and will return soon [10:29] <vensa> yay! citno [10:29] <vensa> *Ctino [10:29] == ctino 1806f0d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.6.240.210 has quit [10:29] <tomoj> hmm, is there enough cmavo space open to translate regex into lojban? :) [10:29] <vensa> hah [10:29] <vensa> valsi bo'o [10:29] <valsi> boxfo = x1 is a sheet/foil/blanket 2-dimensional shape/form flexible in 3 dimensions of material x2. [10:29] <vensa> valsi no'o [10:29] <valsi> no'o = digit/number: typical/average value. [10:29] <selckiku> the cmavo space is rather busy, really [10:29] == donri ~dag@unaffiliated/dagodenhall has joined #lojban [10:29] == gunkamanti ~sarefo@213.83.32.130 has joined #lojban [10:29] <vensa> how about {no'o no no}? [10:30] <vensa> if anything, it sounds hillarious