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{{irci|vensa|ma jdima lonu curmi doi tomoj}} | {{irci|vensa|ma jdima lonu curmi doi tomoj}} | ||
{{irci|tomoj|is there a vague PA}} | {{irci|tomoj|is there a vague PA}} | ||
{{irci|selckiku|i don't mind | {{irci|selckiku|i don't mind '''malgli''', that's a fine way to say it, it just makes me wonder}} | ||
{{irci|vensa|selckiku: the bomb is about to go off :)<br/>tomoj: ji'i}} | {{irci|vensa|selckiku: the bomb is about to go off :)<br/>tomoj: ji'i}} | ||
{{irci|selckiku|huh, a vague pa, that's a cool idea, there isn't is there??}} | {{irci|selckiku|huh, a vague pa, that's a cool idea, there isn't is there??}} | ||
{{irci|tomoj|the thing is, I don't even know the number<br/>nor whether it's typical}} | {{irci|tomoj|the thing is, I don't even know the number<br/>nor whether it's typical}} | ||
{{irci|vensa|you can use | {{irci|vensa|you can use '''za'u'''}} | ||
{{irci|tomoj|I just know it's in the hundreds}} | {{irci|tomoj|I just know it's in the hundreds}} | ||
{{irci|vensa|or | {{irci|vensa|or '''su'o'''}} | ||
{{irci|selckiku| | {{irci|selckiku|'''ji'i''' makes any PA a little vaguer, you can't use it on its own can you?}} | ||
{{irci|vensa|so | {{irci|vensa|so '''za'u panono'''}} | ||
{{irci|tomoj|so I was thinking | {{irci|tomoj|so I was thinking '''XX no no'''}} | ||
{{irci|vensa|selckiku: y not?}} | {{irci|vensa|selckiku: y not?}} | ||
{{irci|selckiku|i dunno, i'd just never seen it}} | {{irci|selckiku|i dunno, i'd just never seen it}} | ||
{{irci|tomoj|well..}} | {{irci|tomoj|well..}} | ||
{{irci|selckiku|what selma'o is zo ji'i anyway<br/>zo ji'i cmavo ma}} | {{irci|selckiku|what selma'o is zo ji'i anyway<br/>zo ji'i cmavo ma}} | ||
{{irci|tomoj|10000 is | {{irci|tomoj|10000 is '''za'u pa no no''', isn't it?}} | ||
{{irci|valsi|ji'i {{=}} digit/number: approximately (default the typical value in this context) (number).}} | {{irci|valsi|ji'i {{=}} digit/number: approximately (default the typical value in this context) (number).}} | ||
{{irci|vensa|tomoj: you can try | {{irci|vensa|tomoj: you can try '''xo paunai no no'''}} | ||
{{irci|tomoj|it's PA}} | {{irci|tomoj|it's PA}} | ||
{{irci|selckiku|ok then, i guess | {{irci|selckiku|ok then, i guess '''li ji'i''' is a pretty vague number then}} | ||
{{irci|vensa|selckiku: is | {{irci|vensa|selckiku: is '''za'u panono''' {{=}} "more than one hundred" or "10000"?}} | ||
{{irci|valsi|za'u {{=}} digit/number: greater than.}} | {{irci|valsi|za'u {{=}} digit/number: greater than.}} | ||
{{irci|selckiku|10000 is more than 100, sure}} | {{irci|selckiku|10000 is more than 100, sure}} | ||
{{irci|vensa|yeah but what is the meaning of the lojban?<br/>oh wait<br/>nm.<br/>tomoj wasnt arguing with me<br/>I was including "10000" as a referent of | {{irci|vensa|yeah but what is the meaning of the lojban?<br/>oh wait<br/>nm.<br/>tomoj wasnt arguing with me<br/>I was including "10000" as a referent of '''za'u panono'''}} | ||
{{irci|selckiku|it's a somewhat unusual meaning of za'upanono but it depends on the context}} | {{irci|selckiku|it's a somewhat unusual meaning of '''za'upanono''' but it depends on the context}} | ||
{{irci|tomoj|I want X00 where X is a single digit 1-9}} | {{irci|tomoj|I want X00 where X is a single digit 1-9}} | ||
{{irci|vensa|doi tomoj no'i xu do kakne lonu se pendo lo mlatu poi bartu<br/>tomoj: then you need a regex :P}} | {{irci|vensa|doi tomoj no'i xu do kakne lonu se pendo lo mlatu poi bartu<br/>tomoj: then you need a regex :P}} |
Latest revision as of 15:40, 23 December 2014
vensa | ma jdima lonu curmi doi tomoj |
tomoj | is there a vague PA |
selckiku | i don't mind malgli, that's a fine way to say it, it just makes me wonder |
vensa | selckiku: the bomb is about to go off :) tomoj: ji'i |
selckiku | huh, a vague pa, that's a cool idea, there isn't is there?? |
tomoj | the thing is, I don't even know the number nor whether it's typical |
vensa | you can use za'u |
tomoj | I just know it's in the hundreds |
vensa | or su'o |
selckiku | ji'i makes any PA a little vaguer, you can't use it on its own can you? |
vensa | so za'u panono |
tomoj | so I was thinking XX no no |
vensa | selckiku: y not? |
selckiku | i dunno, i'd just never seen it |
tomoj | well.. |
selckiku | what selma'o is zo ji'i anyway zo ji'i cmavo ma |
tomoj | 10000 is za'u pa no no, isn't it? |
valsi | ji'i = digit/number: approximately (default the typical value in this context) (number). |
vensa | tomoj: you can try xo paunai no no |
tomoj | it's PA |
selckiku | ok then, i guess li ji'i is a pretty vague number then |
vensa | selckiku: is za'u panono = "more than one hundred" or "10000"? |
valsi | za'u = digit/number: greater than. |
selckiku | 10000 is more than 100, sure |
vensa | yeah but what is the meaning of the lojban? oh wait nm. tomoj wasnt arguing with me I was including "10000" as a referent of za'u panono |
selckiku | it's a somewhat unusual meaning of za'upanono but it depends on the context |
tomoj | I want X00 where X is a single digit 1-9 |
vensa | doi tomoj no'i xu do kakne lonu se pendo lo mlatu poi bartu tomoj: then you need a regex :P |
tomoj | hmm, is there enough cmavo space open to translate regex into lojban? :) |
valsi | boxfo = x1 is a sheet/foil/blanket [2-dimensional shape/form flexible in 3 dimensions] of material x2. no'o = digit/number: typical/average value. |
selckiku | the cmavo space is rather busy, really |
vensa | how about {no'o no no}? if anything, it sounds hilarious |