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Principal purpose of this list is to explore ways to use Lojban different from Indo-European natlang ways. | |||
==Lojban-specific== | ==Lojban-specific== | ||
* cmavo-only style<ref>[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=5&comments_parentId=7703&topics_offset=324&topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc Lojban with only cmavo: an Oulipian strategy]</ref> | * cmavo-only style<ref>[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=5&comments_parentId=7703&topics_offset=324&topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc Lojban with only cmavo: an Oulipian strategy]</ref> | ||
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==Inspired by other constructed languages== | ==Inspired by other constructed languages== | ||
* Verbless style inspired by Kēlen<ref>[http://www.terjemar.net/grammar.php Kēlen Grammar]</ref> | * Verbless style inspired by Kēlen<ref>[http://www.terjemar.net/grammar.php Kēlen Grammar]</ref> | ||
* toki pona style, with e.g. anaphora instead of nested constructs ({mi pinxe lo tcati .i mi masno lonu go'i}) | * toki pona style, with e.g. anaphora instead of nested constructs ({mi pinxe lo tcati .i mi masno lonu go'i}). Vocabulary might or might not be restricted. | ||
==Inspired by fictional languages== | ==Inspired by fictional languages== | ||
* Tlön styles, from Borges’ short story. Most Tlön languages lack nouns, so sumti are either avoided or thought of as combinations of properties and/or relations. {{jvs|za'a}} and {{jvs|si'au}} evidentials are common. | * Tlön styles, from Borges’ short story. Most Tlön languages lack nouns, so sumti are either avoided or thought of as combinations of properties and/or relations. {{jvs|za'a}} and {{jvs|si'au}} evidentials are common. | ||
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* {{vlapoi|logji|sampla|staile}}, corresponding to logical -"- -"- . | * {{vlapoi|logji|sampla|staile}}, corresponding to logical -"- -"- . | ||
* {{vlapoi|tinsa|tectaipe|staile}}, corresponding to strict typing. | * {{vlapoi|tinsa|tectaipe|staile}}, corresponding to strict typing. | ||
==Miscellaneous== | |||
* Stack staile, based on proglangs like Forth and PostScript and conlangs like [[Fith]] and Nalnuàntir<ref>http://conlang.wikia.com/wiki/Nalnu%C3%A0ntir</ref> | |||
* Improvements of mekso, e.g. fancu bridi mekso proposal<ref>http://rossogilvie.id.au/essays/2013-01-22-fancu-bridi-mekso/</def> | |||
=Credits= | =Credits= | ||
Many ideas were proposed by [[la gleki]]. | Many ideas were proposed by [[la gleki]]. | ||
=References= | =References= | ||
<references/> | <references/> | ||
Revision as of 23:54, 4 March 2015
Principal purpose of this list is to explore ways to use Lojban different from Indo-European natlang ways.
Lojban-specific
- cmavo-only style[1]
Inspired by real language features
Inspired by other constructed languages
- Verbless style inspired by Kēlen[4]
- toki pona style, with e.g. anaphora instead of nested constructs ({mi pinxe lo tcati .i mi masno lonu go'i}). Vocabulary might or might not be restricted.
Inspired by fictional languages
- Tlön styles, from Borges’ short story. Most Tlön languages lack nouns, so sumti are either avoided or thought of as combinations of properties and/or relations. za'a and si'au evidentials are common.
- snanu .utloine staile: in Southern Tlön style, meaning is constructed from verbs and adverbs. Example:
| mo'i ga'u ku ti'a lo zu'o ru'i flecu cu co'a mluni |
- berti .utloine staile: in Northern Tlön style, objects are referred to by combination of adjectives (qualities). Possible lojbanic ways to do so: ka and za'i abstractions, modals making main level bridi into such abstractions (especially kai ku and ri'i ku, also ci'o ku and mu'u ku), ca'o nai and co'i nai event contours, ru'i and ze'e interval properties. Example:
| kai vacri je gusni ne'i lo kai'u narju je kandi je tsani |
Note: I am tempted to replace {lo zu'o} and {lo kai'u} with something other in these examples, to completely avoid references to (non-abstract) objects.
- melaxoxengron staile, inspired by “language of dreams” in Max Frei novels. Similar to (especially Northern) Tlön style; default evidential is si'au, se'o may also be used.
Inspired by programming languages
- minde sampla staile, corresponding to imperative programming paradigm. Instead of claims, predicates are understood as commands.
- fancu sampla staile, corresponding to functional -"- -"- . Selbri understood as functions. See the draft.
- logji sampla staile, corresponding to logical -"- -"- .
- tinsa tectaipe staile, corresponding to strict typing.
Miscellaneous
- Stack staile, based on proglangs like Forth and PostScript and conlangs like Fith and Nalnuàntir[5]
- Improvements of mekso, e.g. fancu bridi mekso proposal<ref>http://rossogilvie.id.au/essays/2013-01-22-fancu-bridi-mekso/</def>
Credits
Many ideas were proposed by la gleki.
References
- ↑ Lojban with only cmavo: an Oulipian strategy
- ↑ A grammar of Nootkah
- ↑ Example of Lojban imitating Nuu-chah-nulth (near the end of the section). Note that it is also agglutinative.
- ↑ Kēlen Grammar
- ↑ http://conlang.wikia.com/wiki/Nalnu%C3%A0ntir