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#REDIRECT [[Esperanto]]
Esperano, a constructed [[auxlang|auxiliary language]]. {{jvs|spero}} is the Lojbanic [[gismu|root-word]] for Esperanto and Esperanto culture. Other words are '''bangrnesperanto''' and '''sperybau''' for the Esperanto language itself. Created by [[Zamenhof|la .zamenxof.]]
 
Eseperanto activity is also called ''green star business'' ('''lo crino tartai cuntu''''').''
 
=Lojbanists and Esperanto=
Is Esperanto a rival to Lojban? A great number of Lojbanists studied [[Esperanto|Esperanto]] before coming to [[Lojbanistan|Lojbanistan]], but there is little overt rivalry (except on the vexing [[jbocre: "Sixteen Rules" issue|'Sixteen Rules' issue]]...). The situation can be considered as a case of complementarity: [[auxlang|International Auxilliary Language]] claims are renounced in order to focus on issues which simply don't exist in Esperanto.
 
There was a STS discussion on the [[Learning_(en)|mailing list]].
* [[User:Nick Nicholas|la .nitcion.]]:
** This seems to be primarily an artifact of the peculiar situation of Esperanto in America: the idealism of Esperanto, and the feel for a need for an [[auxlang|IAL]], do not have as much resonance in America as elsewhere, so there are proportionally many more people who would consider learning either Esperanto or Lojban ''only as a [[conlang|conlang]]''. (Few outside the Anglo-Saxon world, I suspect (mi'e nitcion) would learn Esperanto only as a conlang). For that reason, the two languages are being compared by some (e.g. prospective students asking for comparisons on the mailing list) rather more directly than others (e.g. Esperantists or ex-Esperantists like me) may have expected, in terms of non-IAL specific issues like unambiguity or euphony.
 
==References==
* [[spero|spero]]
* [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/kalocsay "On a Bitter Occasion"] by [http://www.geocities.com/esperantolit/kalocsay/bio_nurteksta_angla.html Kalman Kalocsay] in English and Lojban.
*This poem, translated from Esperanto (original: http://ftp.std.com/obi/Esperanto/texts/en-amara-horo.txt) by [[User:Nick Nicholas|la .nitcion.]] waaaay back (obsolete Lojban alert) is a sober self-critique and reformulation of Esperantists' attitude to their own language.

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