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Read''' [[Lojban and Esperanto|Lojban and Esperanto]]'''.
Esperanto, a constructed and the most widely spoken [[auxlang|auxiliary language]], designed by [[Zamenhof|Zamenhof]] in the late 19th century as an international auxiliary language.


The most widely spoken [[constructed language|constructed language]], designed by [[Zamenhof|Zamenhof]] in the late 19th century as an international auxiliary language, or [[auxlang|auxlang]]. See [http://www.esperanto.net esperanto.net]. Also read "[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/esperanto1.shtml Esperanto, the Agressor Language!]"
Esperanto activity is also called ''green star business'' ('''lo crino tartai cuntu''''').''


Formerly (in the [['Tweeners|'Tweeners]] era) a substantial number of Lojbanists were familiar with Esperanto. This no longer appears to be the case.
{{jvs|spero}} is the Lojbanic [[gismu|root-word]] for ''Esperanto'' and ''Esperanto culture''. Other words are '''bangrnesperanto''' and '''sperybau''' for the Esperanto language itself. Created by [[Zamenhof|la .zamenxof.]]
 
=Lojbanists and Esperanto=
A great number of Lojbanists studied [[Esperanto|Esperanto]] before coming to [[Lojbanistan|Lojbanistan]]. Formerly (in the [['Tweeners]] era) a substantial number of Lojbanists were familiar with Esperanto. This no longer appears to be the case. Still here are some of them who can speak Esperanto: [[User:Selpa'i|la selpa'i]], [[la gleki]], [[la ilmen]], [[nitcion]], [[xorxes]], [[User:Michael Helsem|maiky'elsym]], [[User:Cein|cein]], stivyn.
 
Is Esperanto a rival to Lojban? There is little overt rivalry (except on the vexing [["Sixteen Rules" issue|'Sixteen Rules' issue]]...). The situation can be considered as a case of complementarity: [[auxlang|International Auxilliary Language]] claims are renounced in order to focus on issues which simply don't exist in Esperanto.
 
{{quoation| This seems to be primarily an artifact of the peculiar situation of Esperanto in America: the idealism of Esperanto, and the feel for a need for an [[auxlang|IAL]], do not have as much resonance in America as elsewhere, so there are proportionally many more people who would consider learning either Esperanto or Lojban <u>only as a [[conlang|conlang]]</u>. (Few outside the Anglo-Saxon world, I suspect would learn Esperanto only as a conlang). For that reason, the two languages are being compared by some (e.g. prospective students asking for comparisons on the mailing list) rather more directly than others (e.g. Esperantists or ex-Esperantists like me) may have expected, in terms of non-IAL specific issues like unambiguity or euphony.|[[User:Nick Nicholas|la .nitcion.]]}}
 
==References==
* [[spero|spero]]
* [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/kalocsay "On a Bitter Occasion"] by [http://www.geocities.com/esperantolit/kalocsay/bio_nurteksta_angla.html Kalman Kalocsay] in English and Lojban.
*This poem, translated from Esperanto (original: http://ftp.std.com/obi/Esperanto/texts/en-amara-horo.txt) by [[User:Nick Nicholas|la .nitcion.]] waaaay back (obsolete Lojban alert) is a sober self-critique and reformulation of Esperantists' attitude to their own language.
 
*[http://www.esperanto.net esperanto.net]
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/esperanto1.shtml Esperanto, the Agressor Language!]


Still here are some of them who can speak Esperanto: [[User:Selpa'i|la selpa'i]], [[la gleki]], [[la ilmen]], [[nitcion]], [[xorxes]], [[User:Michael Helsem|maiky'elsym]], [[User:Cein|cein]], stivyn.
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Revision as of 12:23, 22 May 2014

Esperanto, a constructed and the most widely spoken auxiliary language, designed by Zamenhof in the late 19th century as an international auxiliary language.

Esperanto activity is also called green star business (lo crino tartai cuntu).

spero is the Lojbanic root-word for Esperanto and Esperanto culture. Other words are bangrnesperanto and sperybau for the Esperanto language itself. Created by la .zamenxof.

Lojbanists and Esperanto

A great number of Lojbanists studied Esperanto before coming to Lojbanistan. Formerly (in the 'Tweeners era) a substantial number of Lojbanists were familiar with Esperanto. This no longer appears to be the case. Still here are some of them who can speak Esperanto: la selpa'i, la gleki, la ilmen, nitcion, xorxes, maiky'elsym, cein, stivyn.

Is Esperanto a rival to Lojban? There is little overt rivalry (except on the vexing 'Sixteen Rules' issue...). The situation can be considered as a case of complementarity: International Auxilliary Language claims are renounced in order to focus on issues which simply don't exist in Esperanto.

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References