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The default order in which topics are presented in the CLL, ''the'' comprehensive Lojban manual/textbook/guide, seems a bit illogical, when first encountered by a beginner. This sparked, in #lojban, a discussion about a more beginner-friendly order, which resembles:
The default order in which topics are presented in the CLL, ''the'' comprehensive Lojban manual/textbook/guide, seems a bit illogical, when first encountered by a beginner. This sparked, in #lojban, a discussion about a more beginner-friendly order, which resembles:


* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/1/1/ Chapter 1] (Legal stuff, skippable)  
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-about.html Chapter 1] (Legal stuff, skippable)  
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/2/1/ Chapter 2]  
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-tour.html Chapter 2]  


* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/3/1/ Chapter 3]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-phonology.html Chapter 3]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/4/1/ Chapter 4]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-morphology.html Chapter 4]


* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/13/1/ Chapter 13.1-13.10]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html Chapter 13.1-13.10]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/6/1/ Chapter 6] (beware of 6.12 (dotside), and 6.2-6.9 (xorlo))
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-sumti.html Chapter 6] (beware of 6.12 (dotside), and 6.2-6.9 (xorlo))


* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/7/1/ Chapter 7]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-anaphoric-cmavo.html Chapter 7]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/5/1/ Chapter 5.1-5.7]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-selbri.html Chapter 5.1-5.7]


* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/17/1/ Chapter 17.1-17.12]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-letterals.html Chapter 17.1-17.12]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/19/1/ Chapter 19] (beware of 19.13 (erasure))
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-structure.html Chapter 19] (beware of 19.13 (erasure))


* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/13/11/ Chapter 13.11-13.16]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/section-evidentials.html Chapter 13.11-13.16]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/11/1/ Chapter 11]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-abstractions.html Chapter 11]


* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/8/1/ Chapter 8]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-relative-clauses.html Chapter 8]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/9/1/ Chapter 9]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-sumti-tcita.html Chapter 9]


* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/10/1/ Chapter 10]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-tenses.html Chapter 10]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/14/1/ Chapter 14]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-connectives.html Chapter 14]


* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/15/1/ Chapter 15]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-negation.html Chapter 15]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/5/10/ Chapter 5.10-5.20]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/section-me-selbri.html Chapter 5.10-5.20]


* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/12/1/ Chapter 12]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-lujvo.html Chapter 12]
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/16/1/ Chapter 16] (Logical quantifiers, difficult material)
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-quantifiers.html Chapter 16] (Logical quantifiers, difficult material)


* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/17/13/ Chapter 17.13-17.20]
* [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/section-character-codes.html Chapter 17.13-17.20]
* ''Not at all necessary'' [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/18/1/ Chapter 18] (mekso - may be dropped from the language)
* ''Not at all necessary'' [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-mekso.html Chapter 18] (mekso - may be dropped from the language)


* ''Useful'' [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/20/ Chapter 20] (selma'o liste)
* ''Useful'' [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-catalogue.html Chapter 20] (selma'o liste)
* ''Not for the eyes of all'' [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/21/1/ Chapter 21] (Formal grammars)
* ''Not for the eyes of all'' [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-grammars.html Chapter 21] (Formal grammars)


Points containing the mention ''beware'' or ''difficult'' should be read with a grain of salt; investing some time on [[Lojban IRC|Lojban's IRC]] will certainly clear things up, not to mention that Lojbanist irci give lessons in #ckule and (especially in the beginning to work on pronunciation) by means of Mumble, Ventrilo and Skype.
Points containing the mention ''beware'' or ''difficult'' should be read with a grain of salt; investing some time on [[Lojban IRC|Lojban's IRC]] will certainly clear things up, not to mention that Lojbanist irci give lessons in #ckule and (especially in the beginning to work on pronunciation) by means of Mumble, Ventrilo and Skype.

Latest revision as of 14:51, 11 June 2018

The default order in which topics are presented in the CLL, the comprehensive Lojban manual/textbook/guide, seems a bit illogical, when first encountered by a beginner. This sparked, in #lojban, a discussion about a more beginner-friendly order, which resembles:

Points containing the mention beware or difficult should be read with a grain of salt; investing some time on Lojban's IRC will certainly clear things up, not to mention that Lojbanist irci give lessons in #ckule and (especially in the beginning to work on pronunciation) by means of Mumble, Ventrilo and Skype.