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This is basically a free-form list of things the BPFK will eventually have to deal with, sooner or later. Feel free to add to it. | |||
*[[BPFK_Procedures#Voting|Design and implement a better voting system]] | |||
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* | * Work through [[Issues with checkpointed BPFK sections]] and resolve everything. | ||
* At some point, the BPFK will need to approve the changes in [[CLL, aka Reference Grammar, Errata|CLL, aka Reference Grammar, Errata]], as the CLL is part of the baseline. -[[rlpowell|rlpowell]] | |||
* | * [[User:Robin Lee Powell|la camgusmis]]: | ||
**The English word for xagri is 'reed', which is amazingly dumb. It needs to be changed to 'reed instrument' or 'woodwind' or something. | |||
* | *[[User:xorxes|xorxes]]: | ||
** | **Consider the grammar proposals listed in [[zasni gerna cenba vreji|zasni gerna cenba vreji]] | ||
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* Grammar points to be decided upon | |||
* | ** {ti citka be mi} | ||
** | ** {lo nu brode ba brodo} | ||
*** | ** {fi do vecnu ti} | ||
* | ** {jai frili fai ma} | ||
* | ** {mi broda fa do} | ||
* | |||
* Improve the BPFK definition for {ji'i} (see [https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/XXO1L7zKGQE/VpgQ9JUfHBMJ this related discussion]) | |||
* | * Go through the gismu list and improve wordings as well as increase consistency between gismu where possible. Go through gismu errata list. | ||
* | ** "at location" places in many gismu seem totally irrelevant to the relation. e.g. ckule, cange, malsi ... Should they be removed? | ||
* Decide how to fill "by standard" places | |||
* | * Formalize the tense system | ||
* | |||
* Formalize fi'o and BAI. Currently they are all broken and terrible. Some BAI might need to be killed or heavily redefined to make sense / be useful. for fi'o there are two options... there are infinitely many predicates, so it's simply not possible to define interaction of fi'o with every predicate seperately. therefore i propose to use a single formula that works for all fi'o clauses. BAI can be considered special in that they are more precisely defined and don't need this general solution. (bau = fi'o se baupli). this means that the fi'o transformation of tags is but an approximation, not a full equivalence. co'e only word that is general enough | * Formalize fi'o and BAI. Currently they are all broken and terrible. Some BAI might need to be killed or heavily redefined to make sense / be useful. for fi'o there are two options... there are infinitely many predicates, so it's simply not possible to define interaction of fi'o with every predicate seperately. therefore i propose to use a single formula that works for all fi'o clauses. BAI can be considered special in that they are more precisely defined and don't need this general solution. (bau = fi'o se baupli). this means that the fi'o transformation of tags is but an approximation, not a full equivalence. co'e only word that is general enough | ||
* Type discussion. mono- vs polymorphism | |||
* | * Lojban definitions of every cmavo | ||
* | * Consider experimental gismu to be made official (e.g. kanpe, kibro, etc) | ||
* | * Consider proposed cmavo and see if they warrant an official form | ||
* CAhA as sumtcita | * CAhA as sumtcita | ||
* subjunctivity formalization | * subjunctivity formalization | ||
* position ne inner rel is outer with LE, but inner (part of name) with LA. is this desirable? (what if LE-LA merge goes through, still desirable?) | * position ne inner rel is outer with LE, but inner (part of name) with LA. is this desirable? (what if LE-LA merge goes through, still desirable?) | ||
* scope of NA | * scope of NA | ||
* na'e ko'a | * na'e ko'a | ||
* make the PEG the official grammar. | * make the PEG the official grammar. | ||
* add uy and iy as BY | * add uy and iy as BY | ||
* add a new FAhA that means "along a path". I suggest {pu'a} from {pluta} (ditch the {pluka} BAI). {mi cadzu pu'a lo rirxe}. {pu'a} has almost no usage (8 times and only on IRC) | * add a new FAhA that means "along a path". I suggest {pu'a} from {pluta} (ditch the {pluka} BAI). {mi cadzu pu'a lo rirxe}. {pu'a} has almost no usage (8 times and only on IRC) | ||
** | **zo vi'i | ||
* discuss the jvojva | * discuss the jvojva | ||
* Have a discussion about the status of dialects. | * Have a discussion about the status of dialects. | ||
Review change proposals | |||
* [http://selpahi.weebly.com/lojban/how-to-substantially-simplify-the-lojban-connective-system-my-connective-system Simplified connectives] | * [http://selpahi.weebly.com/lojban/how-to-substantially-simplify-the-lojban-connective-system-my-connective-system Simplified connectives] | ||
* [http://mw.lojban.org/papri/new_soi soi] | * [http://mw.lojban.org/papri/new_soi soi] | ||
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* abolition of rafsi assignments [http://selpahi.weebly.com/lojban/how-to-get-rid-of-formal-rafsi] | * abolition of rafsi assignments [http://selpahi.weebly.com/lojban/how-to-get-rid-of-formal-rafsi] | ||
* cmevla-brivla merge | * cmevla-brivla merge | ||
Revision as of 14:56, 19 November 2015
This is basically a free-form list of things the BPFK will eventually have to deal with, sooner or later. Feel free to add to it.
- Work through Issues with checkpointed BPFK sections and resolve everything.
- At some point, the BPFK will need to approve the changes in CLL, aka Reference Grammar, Errata, as the CLL is part of the baseline. -rlpowell
- la camgusmis:
- The English word for xagri is 'reed', which is amazingly dumb. It needs to be changed to 'reed instrument' or 'woodwind' or something.
- xorxes:
- Consider the grammar proposals listed in zasni gerna cenba vreji
- Grammar points to be decided upon
- {ti citka be mi}
- {lo nu brode ba brodo}
- {fi do vecnu ti}
- {jai frili fai ma}
- {mi broda fa do}
- Improve the BPFK definition for {ji'i} (see this related discussion)
- Go through the gismu list and improve wordings as well as increase consistency between gismu where possible. Go through gismu errata list.
- "at location" places in many gismu seem totally irrelevant to the relation. e.g. ckule, cange, malsi ... Should they be removed?
- Decide how to fill "by standard" places
- Formalize the tense system
- Formalize fi'o and BAI. Currently they are all broken and terrible. Some BAI might need to be killed or heavily redefined to make sense / be useful. for fi'o there are two options... there are infinitely many predicates, so it's simply not possible to define interaction of fi'o with every predicate seperately. therefore i propose to use a single formula that works for all fi'o clauses. BAI can be considered special in that they are more precisely defined and don't need this general solution. (bau = fi'o se baupli). this means that the fi'o transformation of tags is but an approximation, not a full equivalence. co'e only word that is general enough
- Type discussion. mono- vs polymorphism
- Lojban definitions of every cmavo
- Consider experimental gismu to be made official (e.g. kanpe, kibro, etc)
- Consider proposed cmavo and see if they warrant an official form
- CAhA as sumtcita
- subjunctivity formalization
- position ne inner rel is outer with LE, but inner (part of name) with LA. is this desirable? (what if LE-LA merge goes through, still desirable?)
- scope of NA
- na'e ko'a
- make the PEG the official grammar.
- add uy and iy as BY
- add a new FAhA that means "along a path". I suggest {pu'a} from {pluta} (ditch the {pluka} BAI). {mi cadzu pu'a lo rirxe}. {pu'a} has almost no usage (8 times and only on IRC)
- zo vi'i
- discuss the jvojva
- Have a discussion about the status of dialects.
Review change proposals
- Simplified connectives
- soi
- voi
- abolition of rafsi assignments [1]
- cmevla-brivla merge