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See [[baupla fuzykamni]] and [[BPFK Procedures]].


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I am Jens Gutzeit - .iens.gutsait. - I just started to learn Lojban. If you want to know more
 
about me you should visit my homepage: [http://www.jgutzeit.de] - Unfortunately it is in German. If you want to contact me, send an email to [mailto:jens@jgutzeit.de]].
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Apart from that I have collected some information about what has to be done to get a [[jbocre: Language Code|Language Code]] according to ISO 639-1/ISO 639-2 for Lojban.
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You're stating the following on your homepage with regard to Lojban:
 
Lojban ist eine k�nstliche Sprache, die an keine Sprache erinnert, die es auf der Erde gibt. Urspr�nglich sollte sie dazu dienen, eine sprachwissenschaftliche Hypothese zu �berpr�fen. Mittlerweile ist sie viel mehr.
There are sections, which are very granular, super-sections, which are less so, and super-super-sections, which are huge.
At least for myself, this is not the case ;-) since - from my first running into this conlang - Lojban reminded me somewhat of Native American idoms! Only later, I heard about Sapir and Whorf (who dealt a lot with those languages!). The gismu remind me of Nootka "verbs" (maybe also a bit of Lakhota stative verbs), the "world's view" sometimes seems pretty similar to the Natives view. Just to mention one point here: lb _ti_, _ta_, _tu_ (_vi_, _va_, _vu_ etc.) is the "same" in Lakhota "l�/l�na" - "h�/h�na" - "k�/k�na" - i.e. space (and time) devided in _three_ portions instead of only two like in most other languages.
 
Also, e.g. Lojban _zo'u_ constructions somehow remind me of the common Lakh�ta syntax (although I'm not too sure whether it's really comparable or not, but anyway the creator(s) of Lojban might have had the Lakh�ta 'topic and comment' model in mind): (lojban) _da de zo'u da prami de_ (Lakh�ta) _igm�la s�pa mith�wa kin thew�h'ila_ lit.: "cat black of-mine the (=topic) I-love-her (=comment)".
The idea is that in some cases proposals will cover a broad area of the language.
Or the system of Lojban attitudinals etc., pretty similar to Lakh�ta's elaborated system of enclitics (which - like Lojban attit. - only are to express the _speakers_ attitude/opinion/feeling etc.): _winyan mith�wa kin - them�h'ila s'ni sec'e_ (My wife doesn't love me, I guess/suppose...).
 
-- mi'e [[jbocre: .|.aulun.]]
Please note that the sections are not actually named, for example, "Morphology".  They are actually named "BPFK Section: Morphology".
Hmm, the claim it isn't similar to any (natural) language, might be a little bit wrong. Thanks for pointing out.
 
Apart from that, if you look at how gismu were created, there has to be similarity with other languages. I'll
==Special Sections==
probably rewrite and extend my page about Lojban after I've finished "Lojban for Beginners". -- mi'e [[jbocre: .|.iens.]]
* [[BPFK Section: Formal Morphology|Formal Morphology]]
There are still many other features that "remind" me of other natural languages, e.g. the schwa letter _y_ which obviously goes after the Welsh model, the (multiple) question cmavo obviously modelled after straightforward Hebrew's _ma_ etc. etc. You're right also thinking of the special way of creating (generating!) the Lojban gismu: yet, I'll have to admit that although being familiar with Chinese (a language ranking first among the languages of the Lojban "pool"), it was of rather little help memorizing the vocabulary :(.
* [[BPFK Section: Formal Grammar|Formal Grammar]]
And, you're absolutely correct: Lojban, IMHO, is the greatest conlang I ever ran into (many of them are pretty boring - Esperanto - pardon!, others, very interesting and intelligent, but - again - Lojban ist great.). --[[jbocre: .|.aulun.]]
* [[BPFK Section: gismu Issues|gismu Issues]]
I don't agree, Esperanto is not boring. Every language I have learned so far (Lojban is my 4th language) has its own beauty. But I understand that Lojban can be seen a special case. You have all those possibilites to adjust the meaning of your sentences to express exacly what you want. In every other language you have to try very hard to accomplish that. -- mi'e [[jbocre: .|.iens.]]
* [[BPFK Section: New cmavo Proposals|New cmavo Proposals]]
Oh, of course, there's no need for anybody to agree :) Only wanted to express that Esperanto _for me personally_ never meant an interesting challenge - and my view actually might be wrong at all! My attitude maybe is due to the fact that I'm not very fond of conlangs anyway - except for lojban, which is pretty unique. And you're right with stating that you've got manyfold possibilities to express yourself in Lojban. -- mi'e [[jbocre: .|.aulun.]]
* [[BPFK Section: Dictionary Preface|Dictionary Preface]]
* [[BPFK Section: Pedagogical Tags]]
* [[BPFK Section: Miscellaneous Notes And To-Dos]]
* For more general discussions of stuff we might want to fix some day, see [[jboske]]
 
==[[BPFK Super-Super-Section: sumtcita|sumtcita]]==
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: BAI sumtcita| BAI sumtcita]]===
(See [[BAI subclasses]] for details on how these break up.  The distinctions here are completely artificial, and exist simply because BAI is really, really huge.)
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Causation sumtcita|Causation sumtcita]] BAI1 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Theodore Alexander Reed|Theodore Reed]])</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Epistemology sumtcita|Epistemology sumtcita]] BAI2 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]])</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Case sumtcita|Case sumtcita]] BAI3 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]])</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Tense sumtcita|Tense sumtcita]] BAI4 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Arnt Johansen|Arnt Johansen]])</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Relational sumtcita|Relational sumtcita]] BAI5 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]])</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Quantity sumtcita|Quantity sumtcita]] BAI6 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Arnt Johansen|Arnt Johansen]])</font>
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: Spatial sumtcita|Spatial sumtcita]]===
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Compass Spatial|Compass Spatial]] FAhA1 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Arnt Johansen|Arnt Johansen]])</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Non-Contact Spatial|Non-Contact Spatial]] FAhA2</font> (Slight clarifications in the definitions are being considered, but otherwise this section could be green.) <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Contact Spatial|Contact Spatial]] FAhA3 (Locked by [[BPFK Member: Arnt Johansen|Arnt Johansen]])</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Directional Spatial|Directional Spatial]] FAhA4 FEhE MOhI (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Distance|Distance]] VA VEhA VIhA ZEhA ZI (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font>
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: Tense sumtcita|Tense sumtcita]] — <font color="#008633">This section is currently being actively voted on. See BPFK mailing list.</font>===
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Tense|Tense]] CUhE PU KI</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Tense Interval|Tense Interval]] TAhE</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Numeric Tense|Numeric Tense]] ROI (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Arnt Johansen|Arnt Johansen]])</font>
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: Other sumtcita|Other sumtcita]]===
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Aspect|Aspect]] ZAhO (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font>
* <font color="#0000FF"> [[BPFK Section: Modal Aspects|Modal Aspects]] CAhA </font>
* <font color="#0000FF">  [[BPFK Section: sumtcita Formants|sumtcita Formants]] FIhO FEhU (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]]) (It doesn't match the CW template, but it says what it needs to and I see no need to change it at this point. --aionys)</font> <font color="#008000"> (Ready for voting)</font>
 
==[[BPFK Super-Super-Section: Mathematics|Mathematics]]==
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: Numbers|Numbers]]===
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Digits|Digits]] PA1 PA2 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Arnt Johansen|Arnt Johansen]])</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Syntactic Numbers|Syntactic Numbers]] PA3</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Inexact Numbers|Inexact Numbers]] PA4 PA3 (za'u, me'i) (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Gradiated Numbers|Gradiated Numbers]] PA4 (so'V) (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Mathematical Constants|Mathematical Constants]] PA5 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Pierre Abbat|Pierre Abbat]])</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Intervals|Intervals]] BIhI GAhO (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Pierre Abbat|Pierre Abbat]])</font> <font color="#008000"> (Ready for voting)</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Numeric selbri|Numeric selbri]] MOI ME MEhU (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font> <font color="#008000"> (Ready for voting)</font>
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: mekso|mekso]]===
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: MEX|MEX]] BIhE FUhA JOhI KUhE MAhO MOhE NAhU NIhE NUhA PEhO TEhU VEI VEhO SEI (ti'o)</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: MEX Operators|MEX Operators]] VUhU0 VUhU1 VUhU2 VUhU3 VUhU4</font>
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: lerfu|lerfu]]===
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: lerfu Shifts|lerfu Shifts]] BY1 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Rob Speer|Rob Speer]])</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: lerfu|lerfu]] BY2 BY* (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Theodore Reed|Theodore Reed]])</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: lerfu Forming cmavo|lerfu Forming cmavo]] BOI BU FOI LAU TEI (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Arnt Johansen|Arnt Johansen]])</font>
 
==[[BPFK Super-Super-Section: Logic And Connectives|Logic And Connectives]]==
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: Connectives|Connectives]]===
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Logical Connectives|Logical Connectives]] A GA GIhA GUhA GI JA</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Nonce Connectives|Nonce Connectives]] BAhE ZEI XI (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]])</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Non-logical Connectives|Non-logical Connectives]] JOI (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font>
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: Negators|Negators]]===
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: brivla Negators|brivla Negators]] NA NAhE (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: General Negators|General Negators]] NAI</font>
===[[BPFK Super-Section: Other Logic]]===
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: gadri|gadri]] LA LE (except lo'e and le'e) (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Typicals|Typicals]] lo'e and le'e  (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Logical Variables|Logical Variables]] KOhA1 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Scope cmavo|Scope cmavo]] BO CO CU KE KEhE KU VAU</font>
==[[BPFK Super-Super-Section: References|References]]==
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: Pro-sumti|Pro-sumti]]===
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Utterance Pro-sumti|Utterance Pro-sumti]] KOhA2</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Personal Pro-sumti|Personal Pro-sumti]] KOhA3</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Anaphoric Pro-sumti|Anaphoric Pro-sumti]] KOhA4 KOhA5 KOhA6 (Shepherd: [[rab.spir|Rob Speer]])</font> <font color="#008000"> (Ready for voting)</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Grammatical Pro-sumti|Grammatical Pro-sumti]] KOhA7 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]])</font>
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: Other References|Other References]]===
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Pro-bridi|Pro-bridi]] GOhA</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Reference Regulators|Reference Regulators]] DAhO RAhO SOI</font>
==[[BPFK Super-Super-Section: Attitudinals And Discursives|Attitudinals And Discursives]]==
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Digressives|Digressives]] SEI SEhU TO TOI (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font> <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Realis Attitudinals|Realis Attitudinals]] UI1realis (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font> <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Irrealis Attitudinals|Irrealis Attitudinals]] UI1irrealis (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font> <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
* [[BPFK Section: Evidentials|Evidentials]] UI2 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Arnt Johansen|Arnt Johansen]]) <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
* [[BPFK Section: Discursives|Discursives]] UI3 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Arnt Johansen|Arnt Johansen]]) <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Text Structure Discursives|Text Structure Discursives]] UI3a UI3c UI6 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font> <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Highlight Discursives|Highlight Discursives]] UI3b (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font> <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
* [[BPFK Section: Attitudinal Specifiers|Attitudinal Specifiers]] UI4 UI7 FUhE FUhO (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Adam Lopresto|Adam Lopresto]]) <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
* [[BPFK Section: Attitudinal Modifiers|Attitudinal Modifiers]] UI5 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Theodore Alexander Reed|Theodore Reed]]) <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
* [[BPFK Section: Intensifiers|Intensifiers]] CAI (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Theodore Alexander Reed|Theodore Reed]]) <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Vocatives|Vocatives]] COI DOI DOhU  (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font> <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
 
==Miscellaneous==
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: sumti cmavo|sumti cmavo]]===
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Linkargs|Linkargs]] BE BEI BEhO (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Arnt Johansen|Arnt Johansen]])</font> <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Place Structure cmavo|Place Structure cmavo]] FA JAI SE</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Indirect Referers|Indirect Referers]] LAhE LUhU LI LOhO (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Jorge Llambias|Jorge Llambias]])</font>
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: All Abstractors|All Abstractors]]===
* [[BPFK Section: Abstractors|Abstractors]] NU KEI KOhA8 (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]])
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Aristotelean Abstractors|Aristotelean Abstractors]] NU1</font>
 
===[[BPFK Super-Section: Text Structure|Text Structure]]===
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Text Structure cmavo|Text Structure cmavo]] FAhO NIhO I MAI TUhE TUhU ZOhU (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Arnt Johansen|Arnt Johansen]])</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Quotations|Quotations]] LU LOhU LEhU LIhU ZO ZOI (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]])</font>
* [[BPFK Section: Erasures|Erasures]] SI SA SU (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]]) <font color="#AA0000">(Vote closed, no votes recorded)</font>
* [[BPFK Section: ZOI|ZOI]] definition of a word inside ZOI (Shepherd: [[.alyn.post.]])
 
===Miscellaneous===
* <font color="#FF0033">[[BPFK Section: Termsets|Termsets]] CEhE NUhI NUhU PEhE</font>
* <font color="#0000FF">[[BPFK Section: Subordinators|Subordinators]] NOI GEhU KUhO VUhO GOI ZIhE CEI (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]])</font>
** Technically, CEI has not been checkpointed; it got missed by accident. <font color="#00AA00">(Currently active vote)</font>
* <font color="#00AA00">[[BPFK Section: Hesitation|Hesitation]] Y (Shepherd: [[BPFK Member: Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]])</font>

Latest revision as of 09:41, 17 October 2017

See baupla fuzykamni and BPFK Procedures.

Don't be afraid to improve a page if it's red! See BPFK Community Work for more information.

Red lines have no assigned member. Green lines have been checkpointed at least once, and hence are expected to not suck too badly. Blue lines have been improved up to the standards of BPFK Community Work.

There are sections, which are very granular, super-sections, which are less so, and super-super-sections, which are huge.

The idea is that in some cases proposals will cover a broad area of the language.

Please note that the sections are not actually named, for example, "Morphology". They are actually named "BPFK Section: Morphology".

Special Sections

sumtcita

BAI sumtcita

(See BAI subclasses for details on how these break up. The distinctions here are completely artificial, and exist simply because BAI is really, really huge.)

Spatial sumtcita

Tense sumtcita — This section is currently being actively voted on. See BPFK mailing list.

Other sumtcita

Mathematics

Numbers

mekso

  • MEX BIhE FUhA JOhI KUhE MAhO MOhE NAhU NIhE NUhA PEhO TEhU VEI VEhO SEI (ti'o)
  • MEX Operators VUhU0 VUhU1 VUhU2 VUhU3 VUhU4

lerfu

Logic And Connectives

Connectives

Negators

BPFK Super-Section: Other Logic

References

Pro-sumti

Other References

Attitudinals And Discursives

Miscellaneous

sumti cmavo

All Abstractors

Text Structure

Miscellaneous

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