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== Prior usage and discussion ==
 
=== ni'o ===
 
Seems to be used mostly parallel to paragraph breaks in natural languages. See
[http://www.lojban.org/],
[http://www.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9312/msg00394.html], and
[http://www.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9107/msg00052.html].
 
On IRC, which is indicative of spoken language, this appears to have more of a
meaning of changing the subject. Examples:
[http://www.digitalkingdom.org/lojban/irclog/lojban/2004_06_02-02_21.txt],
[http://www.digitalkingdom.org/lojban/irclog/lojban/2002_05_12--2002_11_28.txt].
 
ni'o implicitly cancels some assignments, depending on the number of
consecutive ni'o and whether the text is spoken or written. The following table
is due to CLL pp. 446--447.
 
{|
! Number of consecutive ni'o !! Written !! Spoken
|-
| ni'o || no effect || cancel KOhA and GOhA
|-
| ni'oni'o || cancel KOhA and GOhA || cancel KOhA and GOhA and tenses
|-
| ni'oni'oni'o || cancel KOhA and GOhA and tenses || cancel KOhA and GOhA and tenses
|}
 
==== Examples of ''ni'o'' Usage ====
 
<nowiki>
A: ni'o mi ca'o kelci lo samselkei
B: .i .ua go'i lo samselkei no'u ma
A: .i go'i la'o gy. Final Fantasy .gy.
B: .i .io mi nelci
A: ni'o mi djica lo nu citka
B: no'i mi djica lo nu jbera fi do
A: .i je'e</nowiki>
 
==== Notes ====
 
I did not include a natural example because the usage is wide, varied, and
mostly incorrect between spoken, e-mailed, IRC'd, and written Lojban. It should be used for starting new topics of discussion, which as a by-product also clears KOhA and GOhA as well as sticky tenses (IIRC). It is not a paragraph marker (whitespace can be used for that and nobody said how much whitespace is allowed), it is a topic marker.
 
==== Issues ====
 
* [https://groups.google.com/group/lojban/tree/browse_frm/month/2008-12/dc259d0ccb79a9d0?hl=en&rnum=51&_done=%2Fgroup%2Flojban%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fmonth%2F2008-12%3Fhl%3Den%26scoring%3Dd%26&scoring=d#doc_935fcdee29329746 Parser related comment. Not sure if currently relevant.]
 
== Proposed dictionary entries ==
 
=== cmavo: fa'o (FAhO) ===
 
==== Proposed Definition ====
Unless quoted by "zo" or "lo'u" -- "le'u", turned into a quote delimiter by zoi, or acting as part of a lujvo made by a preceding "zei", marks the end of input to be parsed. Any remaining text is to be disregarded.
 
==== See Also ====
 
* {fe'o}
* {fanmo}
 
==== Proposed Keywords ====
 
* The End.
* parsing ends here
* end parsing here
 
==== Usage Examples ====
 
There is no usage other than quotes or jokes in English. The only usage that
could be deemed correct is a single fa'o at the end of the Berenstein Bears
books or other books.
 
==== Notes ====
 
Described as unconditional end of parsing. Evidently intended only for machine
input. Sometimes used in the sense of "the end". Some erroneous uses, such as
inside of tu'e -- tu'u groups. See
[http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:MpjTKbPZY88J:www.lojban.org/twiki/pub/Files/Documents/carvi.html+%22fa%27o%22+site:.lojban.org&hl=no|1]
I see no reason to legalise this practice, since ''fe'o'' is available for this
purpose.
 
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=== cmavo: i (I) ===
 
==== Proposed Definition ====
 
Starts a new sentence.
 
==== See Also ====
 
* {ni'o}
* {no'i}
* {tu'e}
* {fa'o}
 
==== Proposed Keywords ====
 
* and then
 
==== Usage Examples ====
 
(see ''ni'o'')
 
==== Notes ====
 
Ubiquitous. This is used mostly in front of sentences that are not the first
sentence in the text. Sometimes also the first sentence in the text is prefixed
with .i. (However, this is incorrect.)%%% It is used to indicate the beginning
of a new jufra continuing on the topic established with ni'o.
 
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=== cmavo: mai (MAI) ===
 
==== Proposed Definition ====
 
Enumerates a point in the text. Combines with the preceding numeral to make a
free modifier, which can be placed almost anywhere in a text.
 
==== See Also ====
 
* {mo'o}
 
==== Proposed Keywords ====
 
* -stly
* -ndly
* -thly
 
==== Usage Examples ====
 
==== Notes ====
 
MAI is postfix, this was probably decided to make it analogous to mei, moi,
roi, and re'u. However, this serves to make the grammar of Lojban non-LALR(1),
because the parser may have to look through an arbitrarily large numeral string
to decide that it actually belongs in a free modifier. This should not be a
problem if Robin's PEG parser is made official. If Robin's PEG parser is
''not'' made official, however, extensive pre-processing will be required.
 
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=== cmavo: mo'o (MAI) ===
 
==== Proposed Definition ====
 
Enumerates a higher-level section or chapter in the text. Combines with the
preceding numeral to make a free modifier, which can be placed almost anywhere
in a text.
 
==== See Also ====
 
* {mai}
 
==== Proposed Keywords ====
 
* -st section
* -nd section
* -rd section
 
==== Usage Examples ====
 
==== Notes ====
 
MAI is postfix, this was probably decided to make it analogous to mei, moi,
roi, and re'u. However, this serves to make the grammar of Lojban non-LALR(1),
because the parser may have to look through an arbitrarily large numeral string
to decide that it actually belongs in a free modifier. This should not be a
problem if Robin's PEG parser is made official. If Robin's PEG parser is
''not'' made official, however, extensive pre-processing will be required.
 
-----
 
=== cmavo: ni'o (NIhO) ===
 
==== Proposed Definition ====
 
Marks the start of a paragraph and a change of subject. Multiple "ni'o" in a row means higher-level section breaks. In written contexts, two or more consecutive "ni'o" cancels the assignment of pro-sumti and pro-bridi in the selma'o KOhA and GOhA, respectively, and three or more consecutive "ni'o" additionally cancels all current tenses. In spoken contexts, a single or several consecutive "ni'o" cancels the assignment of pro-sumti and pro-bridi in the selma'o KOhA and GOhA, respectively, while two or more consecutive "ni'o" additionally cancels all current tenses.
 
==== See Also ====
 
* {no'i}
* {i}
* {ta'o}
 
==== Proposed Keywords ====
 
* continuing to the next topic
 
==== Usage Examples ====
 
Artificial:
<nowiki>
A: ni'o mi ca'o kelci lo samselkei
B: .i .ua go'i lo samselkei no'u ma
A: .i go'i la'o gy. Final Fantasy .gy.
B: .i .io mi nelci
A: ni'o mi djica lo nu citka
B: no'i mi djica lo nu jbera fi do
A: .i je'e</nowiki>
 
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=== cmavo: no'i (NIhO) ===
 
==== Proposed Definition ====
 
Marks the start of a paragraph and change back to a previous subject. If no'i has a positive or zero subscript, it indicates the continuation of an earlier topic that was introduced with the word ni'o with the same subscript. If no'i has a negative subscript, it is a resumption of the topic of the paragraph found by counting backwards, starting with the paragraph before the one introduced with ni'o.
 
==== See Also ====
 
* {ni'o}
* {i}
* {ta'o nai}
 
==== Proposed Keywords ====
 
* returning to the previous topic
 
==== Usage Examples ====
 
;no'i la xrist. ba cpacu loi vanju mu'i lenu pinxe kei gi'e te preti fo ko'a felenu ko'a djica lenu la xrist. dunda dakau ko'a: ''"Christ then took wine to drink, and asked the man what he wanted Christ to give him."''
From the translation of "Cardplayer", by Nick Nicholas. [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/cardplayer|2]
 
;no'i mi pu co'a mutce kurji lo nu jmina la jbovlaste: ''"Anyway, I take great care about additions to Jbovlaste."'' [http://www.livejournal.com/users/camgusmis/2435.html|3]
 
Also see example at {ni'o}.
 
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=== cmavo: tu'e (TUhE) ===
 
==== Proposed Definition ====
 
Starts a text scope, which is a group of sentences. The text scope acts as a single sentence externally, for purposes such as logical operators.
 
==== See Also ====
 
* {tu'u}
 
==== Proposed Keywords ====
 
==== Usage Examples ====
 
Usage is contended. No consistent natural examples exist. Arbitrary examples follow:
 
* ro da pa de zo'u tu'e da gerku .ije de mlatu tu'u .inaja da jersi de
 
* .i la robin. kakne lo nu djuno tu'e lo se pensi be da
* mi nelci lo nu pilno zo ka'u va'o tu'e le jboklu
 
==== Notes ====
 
''tu'e'' - ''tu'u'' seems to be used mainly to be used to set off a large block of text and refer to it metalinguisticially. For instance, there is a (very large) mailing list thread called [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-list/msg03769.html|loi preti be fi lo nincli zo'u tu'e]. Also lots of poetry are prefixed with titles that uses ''di'e'' to refer to the body of the poem, set of with ''tu'e''.
* [http://lojban.org/lists/lojban-list/msg08842.html|Confusion as to the fact that tu'e clauses don't fit into relative clauses]
 
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=== cmavo: tu'u (TUhU) ===
 
==== Proposed Definition ====
 
Ends a text scope. Elidable terminator for tu'e.
 
==== See Also ====
 
* {tu'e}
 
==== Proposed Keywords ====
 
* end of text scope
* terminator
 
==== Usage Examples ====
 
See {tu'e}.
 
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=== cmavo: zo'u (ZOhU) ===
 
==== Proposed Definition ====
 
Marks the end of a prenex. A prenex can occur at the beginning of the sentence,
and consists of one or more terms. A term is either a sumti or a sumti preceded
by a tense or modal tag. The primary use of a prenex is for quantifying logical
variables prior to their use in the sentence and/or sentences that are joined
to it by a logical connective. Terms that do not quantify logical variables are
instead interpreted as 'topics' of the containing sentence, and any sentences
that are joined to it by a logical connective.
 
==== See Also ====
 
==== Proposed Keywords ====
 
* so that
* such that
 
==== Usage Examples ====
 
;i lo do solri nu canci zo'u do ba lifri i mi ba mi'ecpe: ''Your sun-like
vanishing exists such that you will experience it. I will demand it.''
 
==== Notes ====
 
Marks the end of a prenex. A prenex can have one or more terms, which may
constrain the instantiation of logical variables in the main sentence. Prenexes
are also used as a topic field.
 
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== Interaction with other sections ==
 
* The wording of the definition of "fa'o" must be watched closely to prevent contradictions with ((BPFK Section: Nonce connectives)).
* The selma'o MAI probably requires either preprocessing prior to YACC, or a PEG grammar.
 
== Notes ==
 
TUhU is currently seldom elidable. I believe that currently it is only elidable at the end of text. It is the belief of .xorxes., me, and possibly others that it should never be elidable. - .aionys.
 
NIhO should *NOT* have different uffects depending on the medium it is in. rlpowell agrees. (I don't like how "ni'o"*N resets various things depending on N. Can't tense be reset using KI?) - .djeims./purpleposeidon/neptunepink (+1 check out my notes by the applicable words. -Lindar)
 
== Impact ==
 
It is my belief that this section does not invalidate actual usages that were
previously valid, nor does it contradict current prescription of the language.
 
* Clarification: topic resumption by label applies if no'i has a positive __or zero__ subscript.
* Clarification: topic resumption by back-counting __starts at section before the one currently being introduced__.
* Clarification: the implication that any term in a prenex is either a bound variable or a topic (CLL p. 467) is made explicit.
 
 
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Revision as of 14:08, 19 January 2015

Prior usage and discussion

ni'o

Seems to be used mostly parallel to paragraph breaks in natural languages. See [1], [2], and [3].

On IRC, which is indicative of spoken language, this appears to have more of a meaning of changing the subject. Examples: [4], [5].

ni'o implicitly cancels some assignments, depending on the number of consecutive ni'o and whether the text is spoken or written. The following table is due to CLL pp. 446--447.

Number of consecutive ni'o Written Spoken
ni'o no effect cancel KOhA and GOhA
ni'oni'o cancel KOhA and GOhA cancel KOhA and GOhA and tenses
ni'oni'oni'o cancel KOhA and GOhA and tenses cancel KOhA and GOhA and tenses

Examples of ni'o Usage

A: ni'o mi ca'o kelci lo samselkei
B: .i .ua go'i lo samselkei no'u ma
A: .i go'i la'o gy. Final Fantasy .gy.
B: .i .io mi nelci
A: ni'o mi djica lo nu citka
B: no'i mi djica lo nu jbera fi do
A: .i je'e

Notes

I did not include a natural example because the usage is wide, varied, and mostly incorrect between spoken, e-mailed, IRC'd, and written Lojban. It should be used for starting new topics of discussion, which as a by-product also clears KOhA and GOhA as well as sticky tenses (IIRC). It is not a paragraph marker (whitespace can be used for that and nobody said how much whitespace is allowed), it is a topic marker.

Issues

Proposed dictionary entries

cmavo: fa'o (FAhO)

Proposed Definition

Unless quoted by "zo" or "lo'u" -- "le'u", turned into a quote delimiter by zoi, or acting as part of a lujvo made by a preceding "zei", marks the end of input to be parsed. Any remaining text is to be disregarded.

See Also

  • {fe'o}
  • {fanmo}

Proposed Keywords

  • The End.
  • parsing ends here
  • end parsing here

Usage Examples

There is no usage other than quotes or jokes in English. The only usage that could be deemed correct is a single fa'o at the end of the Berenstein Bears books or other books.

Notes

Described as unconditional end of parsing. Evidently intended only for machine input. Sometimes used in the sense of "the end". Some erroneous uses, such as inside of tu'e -- tu'u groups. See [6] I see no reason to legalise this practice, since fe'o is available for this purpose.


cmavo: i (I)

Proposed Definition

Starts a new sentence.

See Also

  • {ni'o}
  • {no'i}
  • {tu'e}
  • {fa'o}

Proposed Keywords

  • and then

Usage Examples

(see ni'o)

Notes

Ubiquitous. This is used mostly in front of sentences that are not the first sentence in the text. Sometimes also the first sentence in the text is prefixed with .i. (However, this is incorrect.)%%% It is used to indicate the beginning of a new jufra continuing on the topic established with ni'o.


cmavo: mai (MAI)

Proposed Definition

Enumerates a point in the text. Combines with the preceding numeral to make a free modifier, which can be placed almost anywhere in a text.

See Also

  • {mo'o}

Proposed Keywords

  • -stly
  • -ndly
  • -thly

Usage Examples

Notes

MAI is postfix, this was probably decided to make it analogous to mei, moi, roi, and re'u. However, this serves to make the grammar of Lojban non-LALR(1), because the parser may have to look through an arbitrarily large numeral string to decide that it actually belongs in a free modifier. This should not be a problem if Robin's PEG parser is made official. If Robin's PEG parser is not made official, however, extensive pre-processing will be required.


cmavo: mo'o (MAI)

Proposed Definition

Enumerates a higher-level section or chapter in the text. Combines with the preceding numeral to make a free modifier, which can be placed almost anywhere in a text.

See Also

  • {mai}

Proposed Keywords

  • -st section
  • -nd section
  • -rd section

Usage Examples

Notes

MAI is postfix, this was probably decided to make it analogous to mei, moi, roi, and re'u. However, this serves to make the grammar of Lojban non-LALR(1), because the parser may have to look through an arbitrarily large numeral string to decide that it actually belongs in a free modifier. This should not be a problem if Robin's PEG parser is made official. If Robin's PEG parser is not made official, however, extensive pre-processing will be required.


cmavo: ni'o (NIhO)

Proposed Definition

Marks the start of a paragraph and a change of subject. Multiple "ni'o" in a row means higher-level section breaks. In written contexts, two or more consecutive "ni'o" cancels the assignment of pro-sumti and pro-bridi in the selma'o KOhA and GOhA, respectively, and three or more consecutive "ni'o" additionally cancels all current tenses. In spoken contexts, a single or several consecutive "ni'o" cancels the assignment of pro-sumti and pro-bridi in the selma'o KOhA and GOhA, respectively, while two or more consecutive "ni'o" additionally cancels all current tenses.

See Also

  • {no'i}
  • {i}
  • {ta'o}

Proposed Keywords

  • continuing to the next topic

Usage Examples

Artificial:

A: ni'o mi ca'o kelci lo samselkei
B: .i .ua go'i lo samselkei no'u ma
A: .i go'i la'o gy. Final Fantasy .gy.
B: .i .io mi nelci
A: ni'o mi djica lo nu citka
B: no'i mi djica lo nu jbera fi do
A: .i je'e

cmavo: no'i (NIhO)

Proposed Definition

Marks the start of a paragraph and change back to a previous subject. If no'i has a positive or zero subscript, it indicates the continuation of an earlier topic that was introduced with the word ni'o with the same subscript. If no'i has a negative subscript, it is a resumption of the topic of the paragraph found by counting backwards, starting with the paragraph before the one introduced with ni'o.

See Also

  • {ni'o}
  • {i}
  • {ta'o nai}

Proposed Keywords

  • returning to the previous topic

Usage Examples

no'i la xrist. ba cpacu loi vanju mu'i lenu pinxe kei gi'e te preti fo ko'a felenu ko'a djica lenu la xrist. dunda dakau ko'a
"Christ then took wine to drink, and asked the man what he wanted Christ to give him."

From the translation of "Cardplayer", by Nick Nicholas. [7]

no'i mi pu co'a mutce kurji lo nu jmina la jbovlaste
"Anyway, I take great care about additions to Jbovlaste." [8]

Also see example at {ni'o}.


cmavo: tu'e (TUhE)

Proposed Definition

Starts a text scope, which is a group of sentences. The text scope acts as a single sentence externally, for purposes such as logical operators.

See Also

  • {tu'u}

Proposed Keywords

Usage Examples

Usage is contended. No consistent natural examples exist. Arbitrary examples follow:

  • ro da pa de zo'u tu'e da gerku .ije de mlatu tu'u .inaja da jersi de
  • .i la robin. kakne lo nu djuno tu'e lo se pensi be da
  • mi nelci lo nu pilno zo ka'u va'o tu'e le jboklu

Notes

tu'e - tu'u seems to be used mainly to be used to set off a large block of text and refer to it metalinguisticially. For instance, there is a (very large) mailing list thread called preti be fi lo nincli zo'u tu'e. Also lots of poetry are prefixed with titles that uses di'e to refer to the body of the poem, set of with tu'e.


cmavo: tu'u (TUhU)

Proposed Definition

Ends a text scope. Elidable terminator for tu'e.

See Also

  • {tu'e}

Proposed Keywords

  • end of text scope
  • terminator

Usage Examples

See {tu'e}.


cmavo: zo'u (ZOhU)

Proposed Definition

Marks the end of a prenex. A prenex can occur at the beginning of the sentence, and consists of one or more terms. A term is either a sumti or a sumti preceded by a tense or modal tag. The primary use of a prenex is for quantifying logical variables prior to their use in the sentence and/or sentences that are joined to it by a logical connective. Terms that do not quantify logical variables are instead interpreted as 'topics' of the containing sentence, and any sentences that are joined to it by a logical connective.

See Also

Proposed Keywords

  • so that
  • such that

Usage Examples

i lo do solri nu canci zo'u do ba lifri i mi ba mi'ecpe
Your sun-like

vanishing exists such that you will experience it. I will demand it.

Notes

Marks the end of a prenex. A prenex can have one or more terms, which may constrain the instantiation of logical variables in the main sentence. Prenexes are also used as a topic field.



Interaction with other sections

  • The wording of the definition of "fa'o" must be watched closely to prevent contradictions with ((BPFK Section: Nonce connectives)).
  • The selma'o MAI probably requires either preprocessing prior to YACC, or a PEG grammar.

Notes

TUhU is currently seldom elidable. I believe that currently it is only elidable at the end of text. It is the belief of .xorxes., me, and possibly others that it should never be elidable. - .aionys.

NIhO should *NOT* have different uffects depending on the medium it is in. rlpowell agrees. (I don't like how "ni'o"*N resets various things depending on N. Can't tense be reset using KI?) - .djeims./purpleposeidon/neptunepink (+1 check out my notes by the applicable words. -Lindar)

Impact

It is my belief that this section does not invalidate actual usages that were previously valid, nor does it contradict current prescription of the language.

  • Clarification: topic resumption by label applies if no'i has a positive __or zero__ subscript.
  • Clarification: topic resumption by back-counting __starts at section before the one currently being introduced__.
  • Clarification: the implication that any term in a prenex is either a bound variable or a topic (CLL p. 467) is made explicit.



Ported from Tiki by kmir, 20 Jan 2015. Poll was here with 3 responses.