BPFK Section: Nonce Connectives: Difference between revisions

From Lojban
Jump to navigation Jump to search
m (Gleki moved page bPFK Section: Nonce Connectives to BPFK Section: Nonce Connectives without leaving a redirect)
(Importing reformatted page from tiki)
Line 1: Line 1:
 
{{BPFK Section from tiki|BPFK Section: Nonce Connectives|24}}
* Outstanding issues (to be fix in the mega-vote, if not sooner).
* Outstanding issues (to be fix in the mega-vote, if not sooner).
** The grizis example should be s/za'e la/la za'e/
** The grizis example should be s/za'e la/la za'e/


== Proposed Definitions And Examples ==
== Proposed Definitions And Examples ==
 
===  Proposed Definition of ''ba'e'' ===


;'''ba'e''' (BAhE):  Emphasize next word. The forethought emphasis indicator. Indicates that next word is especially emphasized or emphatic. For grammatical purposes, "ba'e" marks the following word but does not change its nature, and does not bind with it or form a single unified construct in any way. See also za'e, .ui.
{{BPFK Section box open}}
=== cmavo: ba'e (BAhE) ===
==== Proposed Definition ====
Emphasize next word. Forethought emphasis indicator. Indicates that next word is especially emphasized or emphatic. For grammatical purposes, "ba'e" marks the following word but does not change its nature. (The construct behaves just as the marked word by itself.) Multiple BAhE cmavo may be used in succession, and they combine to mark the next non-BAhE word.
See also za'e, .ui, [[Magic Words]].


** Keywords: Emphasize next word, emphasize next.
==== See Also ====


=== Examples of ''ba'e'' Usage ===
==== Proposed Keywords ====
* emphasize next word
* emphasize next


==== Usage Examples ====
;le lisri cu ba'e pu zdile:The story WAS amusing.
;le lisri cu ba'e pu zdile:The story WAS amusing.


Line 24: Line 29:


;lo nu ciksi lo ba'e zei se zei cinmo cu nandu:Explaning the emphasis-emotion is difficult.
;lo nu ciksi lo ba'e zei se zei cinmo cu nandu:Explaning the emphasis-emotion is difficult.
{{BPFK Section box close}}


=== Proposed Definition of ''za'e'' ===
{{BPFK Section box open}}
 
=== cmavo: za'e (BAhE) ===
;'''za'e''' (BAhE):  Nonce word follows. Forethought nonce-word indicator. Indicates that the next word is a nonce creation or is nonstandard in some way. For grammatical purposes, "za'e" binds with and marks the following word but does not change its nature. The construct behaves just as the marked word by itself. The two words are considered distinct for "sa" matching purposes, however. In the case of an apparent conflict, the effects of this word (and all other words that change the grammatical effects of nearby words) should be read left to right. See also ba'e, sa.
Proposed Definition
Nonce word follows. Forethought nonce-word indicator. Indicates that the next word is a nonce creation or is nonstandard in some way. For grammatical purposes, "za'e" marks the following word but does not change its nature. (The construct behaves just as the marked word by itself, though a marked brivla may have an unpredictable place structure.) Multiple BAhE cmavo may be used in succession, and they combine to mark the next non-BAhE word.
See also ba'e, .ui, [[Magic Words]].


** Keywords:  Nonce-word next, nonce word follows.
==== See Also ====


=== Examples of ''za'e'' Usage ===
==== Proposed Keywords ====
* nonce-word next
* nonce word follows


==== Usage Examples ====
;doi grizis mi tcidu za'e la ralcku:Grizis, I read what I'll call "The Book".
;doi grizis mi tcidu za'e la ralcku:Grizis, I read what I'll call "The Book".


See also the examples for ba'e, which is grammatically identical to za'e.
See also the examples for ba'e, which is grammatically identical to za'e.
{{BPFK Section box close}}


=== Proposed Definition of ''zei'' ===
{{BPFK Section box open}}
=== cmavo: zei (ZEI) ===
==== Proposed Definition ====
Lujvo glue.  Connects words into a lujvo.  Joins preceding and following words into a lujvo.  For grammatical purposes, "zei" binds with the preceding word and the following word. The combination is considered a single brivla (i.e. it is treated as just one word). In the case of an apparent conflict, the effects of this word (and all other words that change the grammatical effects of nearby words) should be read left to right.  See also lujvo.


;'''zei''' (ZEI):  lujvo glue.  Connects words into a lujvo.  Joins preceding and following words into a lujvo.  For grammatical purposes, "zei" binds with the preceding word and the following word. The combination is considered a single brivla (i.e. it is treated as just one word). In the case of an apparent conflict, the effects of this word (and all other words that change the grammatical effects of nearby words) should be read left to right.  See also lujvo.
==== See Also ====


** Keywords:  lujvo glue.
==== Proposed Keywords ====
 
* lujvo glue
=== Examples of ''zei'' Usage ===


==== Usage Examples ====
;pe'u ro do ko friti le se .uu zei cinmo:Please, all of you offer your sympathies. ''(Literally, "pity type of feeling".)''
;pe'u ro do ko friti le se .uu zei cinmo:Please, all of you offer your sympathies. ''(Literally, "pity type of feeling".)''


Line 57: Line 72:
;lu zo bu zei sa si zo bu zei su li'u cu mupli:"bu type-of sa", I mean, "bu type-of su" is an example.
;lu zo bu zei sa si zo bu zei su li'u cu mupli:"bu type-of sa", I mean, "bu type-of su" is an example.


=== Issues ===
==== Issues ====
[http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/d0c4703e985c8874 What does zei grab?]
{{BPFK Section box close}}


[http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/d0c4703e985c8874 hat does zei grab?]
{{BPFK Section box open}}
=== cmavo: xi (XI) ===
==== Proposed Definition ====
Subscript. Subscript indicator.  Attaches the following number or letteral string as a subscript.  Can be used almost anywhere, but is mostly used on sumti and in mathematical expressions.


=== Proposed Definition of ''xi'' ===
==== See Also ====


;'''xi''' (XI):  Subscript.  Subscript indicator.  Attaches the following number or letteral string as a subscript.  Can be used almost anywhere, but is mostly used on sumti and in mathematical expressions.
==== Proposed Keywords ====
 
* subscript
** Keywords: subscript, subscript indicator.
* subscript indicator
 
=== Examples of ''xi'' Usage ===


==== Usage Examples ====
;li xy. xi ci du li xy. xi pa su'i xy. xi re:x sub three = x sub one plus x sub two
;li xy. xi ci du li xy. xi pa su'i xy. xi re:x sub three = x sub one plus x sub two


;la'e di'u xi re cu xamgu se morji mi:The thing you mentioned two utterances ago is well remembered by me.
;la'e di'u xi re cu xamgu se morji mi:The thing you mentioned two utterances ago is well remembered by me.
{{BPFK Section box close}}


== Notes ==
== Notes ==


* A usage convention for superscript would be *lovely*, but no ideas are coming to mind.
* A usage convention for superscript would be *lovely*, but no ideas are coming to mind.
Line 79: Line 99:
* Despite xi causing bizarre interactions in mekso, I honestly can't think of anything interesting to say about it.
* Despite xi causing bizarre interactions in mekso, I honestly can't think of anything interesting to say about it.


== Impact ==
== Impact ==


* ba'e should be basically unchanged, except for clarification.
* ba'e should be basically unchanged, except for clarification.
Line 87: Line 107:
* IMO, this is well worth having a defined precedence in all cases.
* IMO, this is well worth having a defined precedence in all cases.


== Proposed New cmavo ==
== Proposed New cmavo ==


* Another member of ZEI with reverse-order modified-modifier semantics.
* Another member of ZEI with reverse-order modified-modifier semantics.
** The shepherd doesn't consider this terribly important, but it certainly would help match the rest of the language, which is very configurable.
** The shepherd doesn't consider this terribly important, but it certainly would help match the rest of the language, which is very configurable.
** "broda zei co zei brode" has been suggested for this usage.  Should I write that up as a usage convention?
** "broda zei co zei brode" has been suggested for this usage.  Should I write that up as a usage convention?


{POLL(pollId=>15)}Nonce Connectives Poll{POLL}
{{BPFK Section poll| {POLL(pollId=>15)}Nonce Connectives Poll{POLL} }}

Revision as of 22:56, 9 February 2015

This page is imported from version 24 of the page BPFK Section: Nonce Connectives from the lojban Tiki.
  • Outstanding issues (to be fix in the mega-vote, if not sooner).
    • The grizis example should be s/za'e la/la za'e/

Proposed Definitions And Examples

cmavo: ba'e (BAhE)

Proposed Definition

Emphasize next word. Forethought emphasis indicator. Indicates that next word is especially emphasized or emphatic. For grammatical purposes, "ba'e" marks the following word but does not change its nature. (The construct behaves just as the marked word by itself.) Multiple BAhE cmavo may be used in succession, and they combine to mark the next non-BAhE word. See also za'e, .ui, Magic Words.

See Also

Proposed Keywords

  • emphasize next word
  • emphasize next

Usage Examples

le lisri cu ba'e pu zdile
The story WAS amusing.
.oisai mi bilga le nu ba'e ca cliva
Dammit, I need to leave NOW.

The following examples are intended to illustrate interactions of ba'e with other words of special grammatical effect, and hence may be pathological.

mi cusku ba'e si la'e di'u
I said emphasis, no, the referent of the previous thing I said.
ko pensi me'o depsna bu .e me'o ba'e bu
Think about "hesitation sound", and the emphasis letter.
lo nu ciksi lo ba'e zei se zei cinmo cu nandu
Explaning the emphasis-emotion is difficult.


cmavo: za'e (BAhE)

Proposed Definition Nonce word follows. Forethought nonce-word indicator. Indicates that the next word is a nonce creation or is nonstandard in some way. For grammatical purposes, "za'e" marks the following word but does not change its nature. (The construct behaves just as the marked word by itself, though a marked brivla may have an unpredictable place structure.) Multiple BAhE cmavo may be used in succession, and they combine to mark the next non-BAhE word. See also ba'e, .ui, Magic Words.

See Also

Proposed Keywords

  • nonce-word next
  • nonce word follows

Usage Examples

doi grizis mi tcidu za'e la ralcku
Grizis, I read what I'll call "The Book".

See also the examples for ba'e, which is grammatically identical to za'e.


cmavo: zei (ZEI)

Proposed Definition

Lujvo glue. Connects words into a lujvo. Joins preceding and following words into a lujvo. For grammatical purposes, "zei" binds with the preceding word and the following word. The combination is considered a single brivla (i.e. it is treated as just one word). In the case of an apparent conflict, the effects of this word (and all other words that change the grammatical effects of nearby words) should be read left to right. See also lujvo.

See Also

Proposed Keywords

  • lujvo glue

Usage Examples

pe'u ro do ko friti le se .uu zei cinmo
Please, all of you offer your sympathies. (Literally, "pity type of feeling".)
mi lojban zei ciska
I'm Lojbanically writing. (Literally, "Lojban type of writer".)

The following examples are intended to illustrate interactions of zei with other words of special grammatical effect, and hence may be pathological.

lu da zei fa'o li'u cu mutce cizra lujvo
"da type-of fa'o" is a very strange lujvo.
mi ciska me'o .ui zei nai bu
I wrote a frowny face. (Literally "happy type-of not letter".)
lu zo bu zei sa si zo bu zei su li'u cu mupli
"bu type-of sa", I mean, "bu type-of su" is an example.

Issues

What does zei grab?


cmavo: xi (XI)

Proposed Definition

Subscript. Subscript indicator. Attaches the following number or letteral string as a subscript. Can be used almost anywhere, but is mostly used on sumti and in mathematical expressions.

See Also

Proposed Keywords

  • subscript
  • subscript indicator

Usage Examples

li xy. xi ci du li xy. xi pa su'i xy. xi re
x sub three = x sub one plus x sub two
la'e di'u xi re cu xamgu se morji mi
The thing you mentioned two utterances ago is well remembered by me.


Notes

  • A usage convention for superscript would be *lovely*, but no ideas are coming to mind.
  • Despite xi causing bizarre interactions in mekso, I honestly can't think of anything interesting to say about it.

Impact

  • ba'e should be basically unchanged, except for clarification.
  • zei structures are now a single word for purposes of following magic words.
  • IMO, this is well worth having a defined precedence in all cases.

Proposed New cmavo

  • Another member of ZEI with reverse-order modified-modifier semantics.
    • The shepherd doesn't consider this terribly important, but it certainly would help match the rest of the language, which is very configurable.
    • "broda zei co zei brode" has been suggested for this usage. Should I write that up as a usage convention?


Retrieved from "https://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=BPFK_Section:_Nonce_Connectives&oldid=111802"