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<div>The content of this page has been moved to a new wiki, available at https://wiki.lojban.io/Jbogugde_Minecraft_Server</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=jbogugde_Minecraft_Server&diff=124108jbogugde Minecraft Server2020-10-04T16:08:02Z<p>Suskeyhose: Add a download link for the resource pack.</p>
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<div>The jbogugde Minecraft server is designed to provide players with lojban immersion through gameplay, providing its own translation of the game into lojban at a higher level of quality than the "official" translation.<br />
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NOTE: For now, downloading the resource pack automatically from the server is not working correctly. In the mean time, the translation resource pack may be downloaded from the following link: https://srasu.org/jbogugde-minecraft-translation-resource-pack.zip<br />
== Rules ==<br />
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Since the server is designed for users to be immersed in the lojban language, speaking in other languages is discouraged. Because many people find speaking or writing and reading lojban hard, there isn't a strict requirement that ''all'' interactions be done in lojban, however there is one rule about it: if you intend to say something related to the game (be it to propose a trade, talk about where your coordinates are, mention that sweet vein of 9 diamonds you just found, etc.), then it must be done in lojban. Any conversation which is off-topic to playing minecraft may be held in other languages (although you are encouraged to use lojban for these as well!). The goal here is that non-lojban conversations are mostly to assist learners to express themselves or understand the language, not to encourage off-topic conversations.<br />
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Beyond this, just try to be nice to the rest of the community!<br />
== Joining ==<br />
The server uses the Java edition of the game, version 1.16.3, and is available at the following address:<br />
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'''mc.jbogugde.srasu.org'''<br />
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Once you're joined, make sure you accept the server resource pack and change your game's language to la .lojban. in the language settings.<br />
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If you just want the resource pack, but want to use it for your own game, you can download it here: https://srasu.org/jbogugde-minecraft-translation-resource-pack.zip<br />
== Projects ==<br />
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Currently there are plans to build out a small spawn village near the world origin which will allow players to create shops, experiences, farms, and similar community-oriented features to the world. If you want to claim a part of the land which is marked out as owned by an admin, then send a message to one of the moderators to ask about getting a plot in the spawn village.<br />
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== Server Features ==<br />
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The server isn't quite a vanilla server. It runs the fabric loader with a few server-side mods. This means that vanilla clients can connect as normal, but some additional features are included in the world. The two most important are sleep voting and land claims.<br />
When users sleep they vote for the night to be skipped. If enough players do, the night will be skipped and each player who slept through the night will be given a minor regeneration effect.<br />
Land may be claimed by a user with the flan mod[https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/flan]. To get started, use a golden hoe and right click on a corner of the land you want to claim, and then right click on the other corner. When completed, you will have claimed the land you drew out the box in, 15 blocks beneath it, and all blocks above it (right click on a block with a stick to determine who owns it). While inside the claim, you can send the command '''/flan menu''' to get a menu to pop up on your screen to set the permissions other players will have when inside the claim. Additional commands can be found with '''/help''' or on the mod page.<br />
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== Moderators ==<br />
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At the moment there are two moderators on the server, although if it becomes busy more may be added.<br />
# '''srasu''' (on the wiki at [[User:Suskeyhose]])<br />
# '''xRula'''<br />
If you need a moderator and none are online, then feel free to contact srasu#0042 on Discord, or email '''mc.jbogugde@srasu.org''' if you have any questions.</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=Lojban_around_the_world&diff=124107Lojban around the world2020-09-17T19:30:36Z<p>Suskeyhose: /* Less known places */ add minecraft server</p>
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==1. Chats==<br />
Improve, learn, teach Lojban in chats: text or audio/video chats. The overall goal being to establish a broad level of conversational fluency in the Lojban community.<br />
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Here are the tools to be used as primary.<br />
=== [[Lojban Live Chat|Live chat on IRC / Telegram / Slack]]===<br />
This is the main place of chat activity.<br />
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=== Mailing lists ===<br />
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The [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/topics lojban-beginners mailing list] is for questions about learning and understanding Lojban. You can subscribe to the list by sending a question to [mailto:lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com].<br />
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The general-purpose [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/topics lojban mailing list], which covers anything else related to Lojban, was founded in 1989, and has about 500 subscribers. You can subscribe to it by sending an email to [mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com lojban@googlegroups.com].<br />
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===Skype and QQ ===<br />
==== Technical rules of using Skype/QQ ====<br />
Some people have trouble operating Skype. So here are the basic rules of a successful voice chat for Skype<br />
# Use a group where all potential speakers share their interest in the forthcoming conference in text form only. This group already exists. It's called {ko ciska po'o tavla ...} (meaning "Talk by writing only...") This group is only for planning, not for actual talking. Ask in this mail thread to add you there.<br />
# One person runs a desktop version of Skype and has good incoming and outcoming internet connection (~1Mbit/sec in both directions is fine).<br />
# This person must add all interested people to his/her friend list and those people must confirm "friendship".<br />
# This person calls the first person and after successful connection drops other people into the chat window.<br />
# Please, everyone switch off your video by pressing on the video button so that it becomes crossed out.<br />
# Before any conference check your microphone and audio settings of Skype. Add "echo123" user (it's a bot) to your friend list, call it and follow the instruction. Change settings of your Skype client if necessary.<br />
# If you have noise around you during the conference or if other members notice a noise from your side switch off your microphone by pressing on the Microphone button so that it becomes crossed out.<br />
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I think that as of now Skype is preferable since it has better voice compression and buffering mechanisms preventing clicks/pauses during conversation due to unstable internet connection. As of now it's unlikely that 100% of potential students of Lojban get normal internet connection. Many even change to mobile connection dropping the level of fast + stable internet connection even more.<br />
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QQ messenger used in China tested several times with mainland China residents and non-residents works okay. Just like Skype.<br />
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==== Skype Phone Group Topics ====<br />
Read more: [[Skype|Skype and important issues of it]].<br />
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You can arrange a voice call (phone or VoIP) with another Lojban speaker at any skill level. A <u>lot</u> of people have expressed concern about the phone group with respect to the "well, what would we talk about?" issue. I'm pretty sure that discussions about that will take up a lot of space, so please see the [[Phone Group Topics|Phone Group Topics]] page.<br />
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We welcome <u>anyone</u>, regardless of expertise, physical location or monetary resources.<!-- If you can't speak much lojban, well, learning to understand others will help. If you can't afford to make long distance phone calls, one of the other members will be happy to call you. If that doesn't work, [[Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]]'m willing to pony up calling card money just to get this going.--><br />
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To join, just add people above to your Skype friends' list and ask who might be available to talk with you.<br />
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In an ideal universe, [[Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]]'d like to see people matched up with people of very different levels of ability, to spread the expertise around as quickly as possible, but I'm not hugely attached to that.<br />
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==== Lojban On The Phone ====<br />
Please bear in mind, everyone, that collision avoidance is hard on the phone. Please become familiar with ta'a, re'i, be'e, je'e, ki'a and ke'o. Especially that last one. :-)<br />
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Here's a [[vlaselyle'u|phonetic alphabet]] for spelling words on the phone.<br />
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==== Other tools ====<br />
*[https://plus.google.com/111885648105308968553/posts A group] in Google+ where you can videochat in real-time with other Lojbanists less popular tools:<br />
*[[Mumble|Mumble]]: a vocal chatroom<br />
* [http://cinchcast.com/ Cinch] is an audio-blogging service which allows its users to record directly to the website or phone in to record.<br />
*direct browser-to-browser chats like [http://appear.in/ appear.in].<br />
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==== About Expertise ====<br />
The "expertise" field in the members table is currently rather informal, and you are welcome to alter yours as you feel appropriate. However, [[User:Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]] and [[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]] have had their expertise certified in person. The reason behind such system is the option of making the phone group into a ranking system, similar to Chess rankings. In other words, if you want to be certified Expert level, you ask Robin or Nick to take some time to call you up and basically hammer away at you for an hour. You, in turn, can then certify people at rankings below Expert (or, possibly, at or below expert).<br />
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Note that any use of word lists in any such tests would be cheating.<br />
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{{See_also|Lojban Expertise Test}}<br />
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==2. Real life clubs==<br />
Organize in real life Lojban clubs based on your physical location on the planet:<br />
*[[southeast Michigan Lojban group|Southeast Michigan Lojban Group]] - A group of about half a dozen Lojban enthusiasts met at [[Matt Arnold|Matt Arnold]]'s house in Redford, Michigan about every two weeks (except when college is in session, because so many of them are undergrads, grad students, or teachers). Regular attendees include [[Bruce Webber|Bruce Webber]], TheRomp, Shaun Klein, Neil Eppstein, and Alex Martini. The group has been going in one form or another since March 2005.<br />
*A Lojban group started at Grinnell College in Iowa, in October 2006.<br />
*[[Jay Kominek|Jay Kominek]] is interested in starting one at the University of Colorado, let him know if you're in the area.<br />
*[[Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]] used to teach a class in the Silicon Valley area, in Northern California. He'd be willing to do so again if enough people were interested. I know two people here that would attend, but I'd be interested in other jbopre joining.<br />
*Anagram is interested in informally gathering for a workshop of beginners in the Bakersfield, California area. Try contacting him via irc.freenode.net. My registered nick is Anagram, you may leave me a memo via memoserv.<br />
*[[User:tsali|Arnt Richard Johansen]] will teach anyone in 'Trondheim, NO' who is interested. Contact him at arj ATT nvg dot org.<br />
*There has been talk of some of us Southern Californian jbopre getting together in Pomona monthly. More info at [[SoCalLojbanists|SoCalLojbanists]].<br />
* For Aussies in and around Sydney, I ([[la .djunias.]]) am looking to start a Lojban club near Macquarie University. If you're interested, please contact me!<br />
* In Hong Kong, I ([[sorpa'as plat]]) am trying to start the [http://www.facebook.com/groups/lojbanhk Hong Kong Lojbanist Group]. [http://www.facebook.com/groups/cuhkoil/ Open Innovation Lab] once helped us organized a Lojban meetup.<br />
Here are some of the places known to have a high concentration of Lojbanists, or some influential Lojbanists:<br />
* Fairfax, Virginia<br />
* New York, New York<br />
* California<br />
===Mark yourself on the world map===<br />
For now a Google map is used to mark Lojbanists' location on the planet to figure out where new clubs can be organized.<br />
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[https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zsu6INucCzOM.kxkof_dbS3ZY&msa=0&ll=47.195778%2C27.590103&spn=0.254281%2C0.676346 Don't be shy to mark your location on the planet].<br />
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==3. Festivals==<br />
Organize conferences and festivals. The only annual festival by far is [[jbonunsla]].<br />
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==Database of Lojbanists==<br />
For fulfilling the first two goals:<br />
{{mu|i ko jmina le cmene e lei tcila va'o le nu do se cinri le nu penmi loi drata jbopli vi le se xabju be do|Put your name and contact information here if you're interested in getting together with other Lojbanists in your area or talking via audio/video chat.}}<br />
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!lo cmene<br />
!fluency<br />
!lo gugde<br />
!also speaks<br />
!e-mail/id on Skype<br />
!more precise location<br />
! style="width: 15%;" |notes<br />
|-<br />
|la [[User:Bob LeChevalier|lojbab]] (lobja'a)<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:lojbab@lojban.org mrilu]<br />
|Fairfax VA, near DC, and that's where [[Logfest|Logfest]] is always held<br />
|a founder of the [[LLG]]. This language might not exist without him and the others he worked with to make Lojban public domain.<br />
|-<br />
|[[Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:lojbab@lojban.org mrilu]<br />
|Fairfax VA, near DC, and that's where [[Logfest|Logfest]] is always held<br />
|[[lojbab]]'s wife, and has done huge amounts of work on Lojban, largely on the wordlists and software.<br />
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|-<br />
|[[Jay Kominek|Jay Kominek]]<br />
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|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
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|Boulder, Colorado<br />
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|-<br />
|[[User:djunias|la .djunias.]]<br />
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|'''gugde'a'u''' ''(Australia)''<br />
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|Sydney<br />
|I am looking to start a Lojban club near Macquarie University, Sydney. If you're interested, please contact me!<br />
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|-<br />
|[[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]]<br />
|<br />
|'''gugde'a'u''' ''(Australia)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|was the first fluent Lojban speaker (he insists that he was the second, but he's known to be excessively modest). He also has done a lot of Lojbanic writing, both writing in lojban and about it.<br />
|-<br />
|[[Pierre Abbat|.pier. abat.]] = Pierre Abbat<br />
|medium<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|Francais<br />
|[mailto:phma@phma.hn.org mrilu], skype: pierre.abbat<br />
|North Carolina, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=412 EST]<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:.kreig.daniyl.|.kreig.daniyl.]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|North Carolina<br />
|lojbo pemci finti<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:John Cowan|John Cowan]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|New York City<br />
|the author of the [[CLL|Complete Lojban Language]]. What more can you say?<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:xod|la xod]] = [[InventYourself|InventYourself]]<br />
|Intermediate<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:xod@balvi.org mrilu]<br />
|New York City, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|Edward Blevins<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:thedward@barsoom.net mrilu]<br />
|''(Austin, TX)'') / 512.796.6661<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|Adam Raizen<br />
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|'''gugde'ilu''' ''<nowiki>(Israel)</nowiki>''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:araizen@softhome.net mrilu]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[Ivan Derzhanski|Ivan Derzhanski]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdebugu''' ''(Болгария)''<br />
|<br />
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|-<br />
|[[User: Broca|Arnt Richard Johansen]] = [[User:tsali|tsali]] = Broca<br />
|intermediate<br />
|'''lo gugdenu'o''' ''(Norway)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:arj@nvg.org mrilu]<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=288 CET]<br />
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|-<br />
|Raphaël Poss<br />
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|'''lo gugdefuru''' ''(France)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:r.poss@online.fr mrilu]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:.jexOm.|jexOm.]] = JérômeDesquilbet<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdefuru''' ''(France)''<br />
|<br />
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|-<br />
|[[User:Ilmen|la .ilmen.]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdefuru''' ''(France)''<br />
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|-<br />
|[[User:Mark Shoulson|Mark Shoulson]] aka '''clsn''', '''.mark.'''<br />
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|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
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|<br />
|in New Jersey<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[Theodore Reed|Theodore Reed]] = rizen = bancus<br />
|medium<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto: rizen@surreality.us mrilu], skype: tedreed<br />
|Ontario, Southern California, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=865 PST]<br />
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|-<br />
|[[User:John Clifford|John Clifford]] = [[pc]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|St. Louis, MO<br />
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|-<br />
|[[djin|djin]].meiz.<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:emaas@hotpop.com mrilu]<br />
|Tidewater/Hampton Roads, VA<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[Robin Lee Powell]]<br />
|expert<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org mrilu], skype: rlpowell<br />
|Northern California, the Silicon Valley area, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=900 PST]<br />
|[http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ his web site]. Yours truly, is the current webmaster of this site and the provider of the machine and bandwidth it is served from.<br />
|-<br />
|[[Xavier|xavier]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|school is in Rochester, NY, but himself is from Newton, MA.<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|stevo<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com mrilu]<br />
|Cincinnati, OH<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[Matt Arnold|Matt Arnold]] = '''epkat''' = Eppcott<br />
|beginner<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:matt.mattarn@gmail.com mrilu], skype: matt_arnold<br />
|Detroit/Ann Arbor, Michigan, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=77 EST]<br />
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|-<br />
|[[User:Björn Gohla|Björn Gohla]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~bjoern/<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Lindar|Lindar Greenwood]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:lindarthebard@yahoo.com mrilu]<br />
|Hollywood, California, willing to travel to (almost) any part of LA county for meetings.<br />
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|-<br />
|[[Jeremy Way|rem.klajis]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|Phoenixville, Chester County, pa<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|la [[.alyn.post.|.alyn.post.]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|xabju lo la'o .gy. Rio Grande .gy. rirxe ma'arbi'i pe la'o .gy. New Mexico .gy.<br />
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|-<br />
|Mike Fairhurst<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:michaelrfairhurst@hotmail.com mrilu]<br />
|looking for Lojbanists around Portland, Oregon<br />
|or facebook me<br />
|-<br />
|Twitch<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:sirrustemplar@madriver.com mrilu]<br />
|learning lojban in Montpelier, Vermont<br />
|would love to work with others<br />
|-<br />
|cizyprijev<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:osiris_hades_deathland@hotmail.com mrilu]<br />
|<br />
|https://twitter.com/#!/cizyprijev<br />
|-<br />
|[[James Cooke Brown|Dr. James Cooke Brown]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|lived in the US<br />
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|-<br />
|Avital Oliver<br />
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|'''gugde'ilu''' ''<nowiki>(Israel)</nowiki>''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:olivera@macs.biu.ac.il mrilu]<br />
|<br />
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|-<br />
|Alex (Sasha) Gontmakher<br />
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|'''gugde'ilu''' ''<nowiki>(Israel)</nowiki>''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:gsasha@cs.technion.ac.il mrilu]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:xorxes|Jorge Llambías]] aka '''la .xorxes.'''<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'aru''' ''(Argentina)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com mrilu]<br />
|<br />
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|-<br />
|[[User:Tsani|la tsani]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdecu'a''' ''(Canada)''<br />
|<br />
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|Montreal<br />
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|-<br />
|[[Adam Lopresto|Adam Lopresto]] = Eimi = '''la xalbo'''<br />
|expert<br />
|'''lo gugdecu'a''' ''(Canada)''<br />
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|[mailto:adam@pubcrawler.org mrilu], skype: adamlopresto<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=605 CDT]<br />
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|-<br />
|[[User:nonong|Viktor Medrano]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdecu'a''' ''(Canada)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|.i mi zvati le lulus. zei daplu<br />
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|-<br />
|[[User:Gleki|la gleki]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''<br />
|русский<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|основной контакт для русскоговорящих<br />
|-<br />
|[[Russian Lojban community|Русскоязычное сообщество]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Cyril Slobin|Cyril Slobin]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''<br />
|русский<br />
|[mailto:cyril@slobin.pp.ru mrilu]<br />
|Москва<br />
|http://slobin.pp.ru/english.html<br />
|-<br />
|Ark Balandin<br />
|expert<br />
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''<br />
|русский<br />
|skype: ark.balandin<br />
|GMT + 4<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|A. W. Tüting ([[.aulun.|.aulun.]])<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de mrilu]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[Timo Paulssen|Timo Paulssen]] = timonator<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')<br />
|Deutsch<br />
|[mailto:timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de mrilu]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Björn Gohla|Björn Gohla]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:b.gohla@gmx.de mrilu]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[Philip Newton|Philip Newton]] = [[pne|pne]] = .filip.<br />
|beginner<br />
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:pne@writeme.com mrilu]<br />
|Hamburg, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=307 CEST]<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|Jens Gutzeit = [[.iens.|.iens.]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:jens@jgutzeit.de mrilu]<br />
|Berlin<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Iesk|.iesk.]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:pa.fae@gmx.de mrilu]<br />
|berti dotygu'e<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:selpa'i|la selpa'i]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|Berlin<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] = [[And Rosta|And Rosta]] = AndRosta<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdegubu''' ''(United Kingdom)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|London & Preston.<br />
|No point meeting me if you want to practice Lojban conversation! I have never really got round to learning such conversationally vital stuff as gismu, BAI, tense, UI... That doesn't mean I'm not willing to try a bit, tho.<br />
|-<br />
|[[Colin Fine|Colin Fine]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdegubu''' ''(United Kingdom)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:.evgenis.|Evgenii Sklyanin]] = la .evgenis.<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdegubu''' ''(United Kingdom)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:eks2@york.ac.uk mrilu]<br />
|York<br />
|earlier in St. Petersburg<br />
|-<br />
|[[.greg.|greg.]], Gryon, Gregory Dyke<br />
|Beginner<br />
|'''lo gugdecuxe''' ''(Switzerland)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:gvd@easy.com mrilu], [mailto: epfl@lojban.org mrilu]<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=945 CET]<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|Veijo Vilva (veion)<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdefu'i''' ''(Suomi)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:veijo.vilva@gmail.com mrilu]<br />
|Porvoo/Borgå<br />
|http://galactinus.net/vilva/<br />
|-<br />
|Martin Norbäck, G?org, norpan on irc<br />
|beginner<br />
|'''lo gugrsferie''' ''(Sweden)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:d95mback@dtek.chalmers.se mrilu]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[ShaeErisson]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugrsferie''' ''(Sweden)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:shae@ScannedInAvian.com mrilu]<br />
|Boden<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|Roger Norling<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugrsferie''' ''(Sweden)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:r_norling@bredband.net mrilu]<br />
|Sundsvall<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|Marek Rogalski<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdepulu''' ''(Polska)''<br />
|polska<br />
|[mailto:mafikpl@gmail.com mrilu]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:solri|Robin Turner]] aka '''la solri'''<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugdeturu''' ''(Türkiye)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|finti la'oi [[L4B]]<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:durka42|Alex Burka]] aka '''la durka'''<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|español<br />
|[mailto:lojban@alexburka.com mrilu]<br />
|Philadelphia<br />
|<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|[[Jordan DeLong|Jordan DeLong]]<br />
|<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:fracture@allusion.net mrilu]<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=75 CST]<br />
|<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|[[selckiku|selckiku]] = Brett Douglas Williams = mungojelly<br />
|expert<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|[mailto:selckiku@gmail.com mrilu], skype: selckiku<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Stephen Weeks|Stephen Weeks]] = Tene<br />
|intermediate<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|[mailto:tene@allalone.org mrilu], skype: srweeks<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=220 MST]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|- <br />
|[[Xavier|Steve Pomeroy]] = ?<br />
|Beginner<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:steve@staticfree.info mrilu]<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]<br />
|<br />
|- <br />
|Kevin Reid = kpreid<br />
|Intermediate<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:kpreid@mac.com mrilu], skype: kpreid<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179 EDT]<br />
|<br />
|- <br />
|Alex Martini = aleks<br />
|Beginner/Intermediate<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:alexjm@umich.edu mrilu], skype: amartini51<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]<br />
|<br />
|- <br />
|Jonathan Strickland = djanatyn<br />
|Beginner/Intermediate<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:djanatyn@gmail.com mrilu]<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179 EDT]<br />
|<br />
|- <br />
|William McMillian = Very_Bill<br />
|Beginner<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|[mailto: mrilu], skype: William McMillian<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=220 MDT]<br />
|<br />
|- <br />
|[[User:.rem.klajis.|Remy Way]] = remklajis<br />
|Beginner/Intermediate<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:rem.klajis@gmail.com mrilu], skype: rem.klajis<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]<br />
|<br />
|- <br />
|Gianmarco Molino = mercrutio<br />
|Beginner<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:mercrutio.undefined@gmail.com mrilu], skype: mercrutio.11235813<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=220 MDT]<br />
|<br />
|- <br />
|Ashley P. = eclen<br />
|Beginner<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:ashley.akakuro@gmail.com mrilu], skype: kiriel.ambar<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]<br />
|<br />
|- <br />
|[[User:Cein|cein]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|- <br />
|[[User:Michael Helsem|.maiky'elsym.]] = graywyvern<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|finti lo lojbo pemci<br />
|-<br />
|la [[rab.spir|rab.spir]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|finti lo [[jbozgiMusic|jbozgi]]<br />
|-<br />
|[[John Schock|John Schock]] = '''.djancak.'''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:.aionys.|.aionys.]] = eyeonus<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[Athelstan]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[Goran Topic|Goran Topic]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[.iusris.|.iusris.]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[jemna|John Leuner]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[jezrax|jezrax]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Adam Cooper|komfo,amonan]] = Adam Cooper = adamgarrigus<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:.lidaniyl.|.lidaniyl.]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[LordBrain|LordBrain]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[marktillinghast|marktillinghast]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:PlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:skaryzgik|skaryzgik]] = Marjorie Scherf<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[tinkit|tinkit]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|Oren Robinson<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|普通话<br />
|[mailto:get.oren@gmail.com mrilu]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|Leonardo Molas<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|español<br />
|[mailto:leos.molas@gmail.com mrilu]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|rprije<br />
|Intermediate<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|skype: robreim3<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/china/beijing UTC+8]<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|Brendan (Tang Wei), ahbrendan <br />
|Beginner<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|[mailto:ahbrendan@gmail.com mrilu], skype: ahbrendan<br />
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/china/beijing UTC+8]<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|la .dzyLON. (Zilong Li) <br />
|Beginner<br />
|lo gugdecunu (中國)<br />
|English, 中文, 한국어, español, Deutsch<br />
|[mailto:zilongli@protonmail.com mrilu],<br />
|[https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/germany/berlin UTC+2]<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Ramcinfo|la ramcinfo]], Dmitry Kourmyshov, mindszenty on irc<br />
|beginner<br />
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''<br />
|English<br />
|[mailto:mantycore@gmail.com mrilu]<br />
|St.Petersburg<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:mark.xafirkamp.|mark.xafirkamp]]<br />
|panoce'i lo gismu .e xo lo cmavo ''(10% of gismu and ??? cmavo)''<br />
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''<br />
|'''lo glibau''' ''(English)'' '''mi milxe lo sanbau djuno''' ''(Español, pero solamente un poco)''<br />
|<br />
|Flagstaff, Arizona<br />
|I'm interested in meeting any jbopre in Flagstaff and talking with technology/computer/programming-oriented jbopre around the world. .i mi nintadni lo jbobau .i mi na kakne lo nu tavla fo lo jbobau kei ku lo nu na ralte lo jbobau vlacku<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Ractu|la uakci]] = Bruno Panasiewicz<br />
|fluent<br />
|'''lo gugdepulu''' ''(Polska)''<br />
|'''lo bangupulu''' ''(Polski)'', '''lo glibau''' ''(English)'', '''lo ponbau sei tolcre''' ''(Japanese, kind of)''<br />
|[mailto:ciuak.prog@gmail.com mrilu], Skype: bruno.panasiewicz, Discord: uakci, Twitter: @la_ractu<br />
|UTC+1 (Krakow) (DST: UTC+2)<br />
|<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:timoteios|timoteios]]<br />
|very basic<br />
|'''lo gugde'a'u''' ''(Australia)''<br />
|'''lo glibau''' (English)<br />
'''lo fasybau''' (très mal français)<br />
|[[User:timoteios|timoteios]]<br />
|Brisbane, Australia<br />
|A room would be available if you wanted to stay in Australia for a holiday.<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Lalxu|la lalxu]] = Lynn<br />
|certu<br />
|'''la beljik''' ''(Belgium)''<br />
|<small>'''se baurnuludu''' ''(Nederlands)'' <br />'''se glibau''' ''(English)'' <br />'''ponbau tadni''' ''(日本語学習者)''<br />'''se sperybau''' ''(Esperanto)''<br />'''se tokpona''' ''(toki pona)''</small><br />
|<small>Discord: lynn#5381<br />Twitter: @chordbug<br />(to pu jeku'i de'a .u'u co'e la'o tu. @la_lalxu .tu ji'a toi)</small><br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Niftg|la .niftyg.]]<br />
|lazni jbopre<br />
|'''lo gugdejupu''' ''(Japan)''<br />
|'''se ponbau''' ''(日本語)''<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Organizations==<br />
===[[The Logical Language Group]]===<br />
... and its affiliated organizations<br />
==== Contacting The LLG by e-mail ====<br />
You can contact the LLG by e-mail using our&nbsp;[http://www.lojban.org/llg/feedback.php our web-based e-mail form], or the list of e-mail addresses below.<br />
*Web Master [mailto:webmaster@lojban.org webmaster@lojban.org]<br />
*President [mailto:president@lojban.org president@lojban.org]<br />
*Vice President [mailto:vp@lojban.org vp@lojban.org]<br />
*Secretary/Treasurer [mailto:treasurer@lojban.org treasurer@lojban.org]<br />
*General Inquiries [mailto:lojban@lojban.org lojban@lojban.org]<br />
==== Contacting The LLG by postal mail ====<br />
The Logical Language Group, Inc.<br />
<br />
2904 Beau Lane<br />
<br />
Fairfax, VA 22031, USA<br />
<br />
(703) 385-0273<br />
<br />
== Less known places ==<br />
The Lojban community has a vibrant and growing online presence. Only a portion of Lojban websites are listed here, as this community is growing and changing too fast to list them all.<br />
<br />
This section contains a list of various forums in which people discuss Lojban or discuss in Lojban, in approximate order of popularity as far as the main community is aware.<br />
<br />
===Learning websites===<br />
[http://laxmahispajispaji.blogspot.com/ la laxma'i spaji spaji, the bilingual Lojban/English blog], can be helpful for learning both how various English idioms may be translated into Lojban, and how to use a wide range of Lojban cmavo (mainly in a narrative tone).<br />
<br />
=== Mailing lists ===<br />
Other than the primary mailing lists, the following special interest lists exist:<br />
* [http://lojban.freeforums.net/ Lojban FreeForums]<br />
* [http://groups.google.com/group/jbofanva jbofanva] is a mailing list for translation projects.<br />
* http://lojban.livejournal.com/<br />
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-announcements/ The Lojban Announcements Mailing List] is for single posts on topics of general community interest.<br />
All posts to this list are moderated, and all must include a description for where followup conversation should go. For example: "there are now Lojban flashcards on smart.fm; follow up discussion should go to the Beginners list" (but presumably with more detail). This is ''NOT'' a discussion list. The list does not set Reply-To, so you should set it to where you want followup discussion to go, if you know how.<br />
<br />
The announcement list sends to just about every Lojban email list there is. People can also subscribe to it directly, if they want to get announcements of general community interest but do not want to be on the main mailing lists.<br />
<br />
Anything likely to be of interest to large segments of the Lojban community is on topic. In particular, "I'm starting Lojbanic project X and need help/feedback" is what the list is primarily intended for.<br />
* [http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/ xedbig], AKA Hedwig, a private, moderated list with rules (you must be nice, you must speak in Lojban, and you may not criticise how other people speak Lojban)<br />
<br />
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-pl/ lojban-pl], the Polish Lojban list<br />
* [http://groups.google.com/group/budjo/ budjo], for discussion of Buddhism <br />
<br />
* [http://groups.google.com/group/kasyjda/ kasyjda], for discussion of the chaos religions, such as Discordianism <br />
* [http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list/ the bpfk mailing list], for language development issues<br />
<br />
* [http://groups.google.com/group/xadni/ xadni], a largely unused list for discussion of the experience of having a body, or something like that <br />
* lo jbocertu cu bau casnu vecu'u [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jbosnu/ la jbosnu] (nothing but spam these days) <br />
<br />
* The [http://www.lojban.org/lists/jboske/ jboske], or lojbanic science list was used for extremely detailed discussions of technical and linguistic issues related to Lojban.<br />
* [http://groups.google.com/group/jefnuz/ jefnuz] is a subscribe-and-don't-post list for receiving the weekly community news.<br />
* [http://groups.google.com/group/snakarni/ snakarni] is a list for audio-bloggers, especially for CinchCast users.<br />
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojhbanistoj/ Loĵbanistoj] is a lojban mailing list where discussions occur in Esperanto<br />
* [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/lojban-zasni/ lojban-zasni] is a lojban mailing list for experimental grammars<br />
<br />
===Social network groups===<br />
*[[Image:Vkontakte_LOGO.jpg|15px|link=http://vk.com/menli.bangu]] [http://vk.com/menli.bangu Группа ВКонтакте] (rusko)<br />
*[[Image:Facebook_Logo_Mini.svg|12px|link=http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/]] http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/ - the group in Facebook.<br />
*[[Image:Google plus icon.svg|12px|link=https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740]] https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740 - the group in Google Plus.<br />
*[[Image:quora.png|12px|link=http://www.quora.com/Lojban]] [http://www.quora.com/Lojban Quora].<br />
<br />
===Microblogging===<br />
As microblogging has become more popular among the internets as a whole, it's also started to be noticed in Lojbanistan. <br />
* [http://identi.ca identi.ca], sometimes known as '''la .aidentikar.''' There was a Lojban group called !lojban.<br />
* Twitter Lojbanic posts on [http://twitter.com/ Twitter] are sometimes tagged #lojban, but it's also fun to [http://search.twitter.com/search?q=lojban search for Lojban without the #] to see what random strangers are saying about us!<br />
* [http://reddit.com/r/lojban/ Reddit] has a page where Lojbanic news are often published.<br />
* [http://lojban.shapado.com/ Shapado] website has a Lojban page.<br />
=== Game Servers ===<br />
<br />
Currently active game servers designed as a place for lojbanists to meet and play games, often as a form of language immersion.<br />
<br />
* [[jbogugde Minecraft Server]] is a vanilla Minecraft server running version 1.16.3 working towards building a community of builders<br />
<br />
=== Other Forums ===<br />
<!--* This wiki has a [http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Special:WikiForum&forum=1 guestboard] for asking questions--><br />
* [[The Lojban MOO|The Lojban MOO]] is a type of MUD (a multi-user online text adventure game, sort of) that is fully bilingual in its command set.<br />
* [http://www.lojban.org/story/story.pl The Lojbanic Interactive Story] is a web-based story writing forum. The story itself is all in Lojban. Anyone can add to it, please go contribute!<br />
* [http://lojban.7.forumer.com/index.php Lojban.forumer]<br />
* There has been a [http://community.livejournal.com/lojban/ LiveJournal community] for Lojban for a long time, though it's often sleepy.<br />
<br />
=== Archives Of Past Discussions ===<br />
<br />
==== Mailing List Archives ====<br />
<br />
There are locally stored archives of a number of lists. Those lists are no longer updated.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-list The main Lojban mailing list]. To subscribe to the list via email (in case you don't want to use the Google Groups interface), write an email to: lojban+subscribe@googlegroups.com<br />
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-beginners The lojban-beginners list]. To subscribe via email, write to: lojban-beginners+subscribe@googlegroups.com<br />
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-es Lojban-es, the Spanish Lojban list]<br />
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-fr Lojban-fr, the French Lojban list] <br />
<br />
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/bpfk-announce The BPFK announcement list] <br />
<br />
The Google Groups lists have complete, searchable archives stored in Google Groups itself.<br />
<br />
In addition to this, for research purposes, there are as-complete-as-humanly-possible archives of all Google Groups lists stored as UNIX mail files on one of the lojban.org computers. If you need access to them, [mailto:secretary@lojban.org mail the LLG secretary].<br />
<br />
==== IRC Logs ====<br />
<br />
[http://lojban.org/resources/irclog/ Public logs of the lojbanic portions of the IRC channel] are available. <br />
<br />
'''Note:''' the logs are filtered so that they contain only Lojbanic text. However, you might still be offended by the things discussed there. If you are, that's your problem, and the [[LLG|LLG]] explicitly disclaims responsibility for anything said on the IRC channel, including by members or officers of the [[LLG|LLG]].<br />
<br />
Furthermore, no guarantee is made as to the correctness of the Lojban therein.<br />
<br />
=== Lojbanic Websites ===<br />
None of these sites are officially associated with the LLG in any way.<br />
*http://jboselkei.lojban.org is an online game of translation from English to Lojban, featuring rating calculation for users. If you don't know how this or that is translated to Lojban, ask it in jboselkei, and as the game proceeds, expect to see one or even more translations of your 'post' made by jboselkei players, with comments. If you are an experienced lojbanist, you will always find a couple or more challenging 'tough nuts' awaiting your translation and promising rating points. jboselkei first appeared in Beta form in mid March 2006, and was upgraded for appearance and usability in November 2006. Playing in jboselkei is very exciting; you are welcome to join!<br />
* [http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/ jbovlaste] - a lojbanic dictionary program from [[Jay Kominek]].<br />
* [https://jbotcan.org/ la jbotcan] -- an anonymous bulletin board.<br />
* [http://jbo.wiktionary.org/wiki/ralju_ckupau uikipedias] -- Lojbanic Wikipedia.<br />
* [http://www.reddit.com/r/lojban/ Reddit Lojban Group] -- a social news website.<br />
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban Google Lojban Group]<br />
* [[Official LLG Projects|The official LLG Projects page]]<br />
* [http://www.nvg.org/~arj/dantimanti/ la danti manti] is [[User:tsali|tsali's]] very infrequently updated weblog.<br />
* [http://satirist.org/lojban/cuvjbo/balfihe/ la roldei balfipmabru] is [[jezrax|jezrax's]] site.<br />
* [http://purl.oclc.org/net/lojban la .jbosev.] "Lojban Dreams" of [[User:nonong|Viktor Medrano]].<br />
<br />
==History==<br />
* [[Lojban timeline|Lojban timeline]]<br />
* [[Social history of Lojban|Social history of Lojban]]<br />
* [[Generations, waves and epochs of Lojbanists]]<br />
* [[Lojban awards]]<br />
==Culture==<br />
* [[Lojbanistani Culture|Lojbanistani Culture]]<br />
* [[Ideologies and Philosophies about Lojban|Ideologies and Philosophies about Lojban]]<br />
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[[Category:nu jikca]]</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=jbogugde_Minecraft_Server&diff=124106jbogugde Minecraft Server2020-09-14T19:48:40Z<p>Suskeyhose: Fix plural</p>
<hr />
<div>The jbogugde Minecraft server is designed to provide players with lojban immersion through gameplay, providing its own translation of the game into lojban at a higher level of quality than the "official" translation.<br />
<br />
== Rules ==<br />
<br />
Since the server is designed for users to be immersed in the lojban language, speaking in other languages is discouraged. Because many people find speaking or writing and reading lojban hard, there isn't a strict requirement that ''all'' interactions be done in lojban, however there is one rule about it: if you intend to say something related to the game (be it to propose a trade, talk about where your coordinates are, mention that sweet vein of 9 diamonds you just found, etc.), then it must be done in lojban. Any conversation which is off-topic to playing minecraft may be held in other languages (although you are encouraged to use lojban for these as well!). The goal here is that non-lojban conversations are mostly to assist learners to express themselves or understand the language, not to encourage off-topic conversations.<br />
<br />
Beyond this, just try to be nice to the rest of the community!<br />
== Joining ==<br />
The server uses the Java edition of the game, version 1.16.3, and is available at the following address:<br />
<br />
'''mc.jbogugde.srasu.org'''<br />
<br />
Once you're joined, make sure you accept the server resource pack and change your game's language to la .lojban. in the language settings.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
<br />
Currently there are plans to build out a small spawn village near the world origin which will allow players to create shops, experiences, farms, and similar community-oriented features to the world. If you want to claim a part of the land which is marked out as owned by an admin, then send a message to one of the moderators to ask about getting a plot in the spawn village.<br />
<br />
== Server Features ==<br />
<br />
The server isn't quite a vanilla server. It runs the fabric loader with a few server-side mods. This means that vanilla clients can connect as normal, but some additional features are included in the world. The two most important are sleep voting and land claims.<br />
When users sleep they vote for the night to be skipped. If enough players do, the night will be skipped and each player who slept through the night will be given a minor regeneration effect.<br />
Land may be claimed by a user with the flan mod[https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/flan]. To get started, use a golden hoe and right click on a corner of the land you want to claim, and then right click on the other corner. When completed, you will have claimed the land you drew out the box in, 15 blocks beneath it, and all blocks above it (right click on a block with a stick to determine who owns it). While inside the claim, you can send the command '''/flan menu''' to get a menu to pop up on your screen to set the permissions other players will have when inside the claim. Additional commands can be found with '''/help''' or on the mod page.<br />
<br />
== Moderators ==<br />
<br />
At the moment there are two moderators on the server, although if it becomes busy more may be added.<br />
# '''srasu''' (on the wiki at [[User:Suskeyhose]])<br />
# '''xRula'''<br />
If you need a moderator and none are online, then feel free to contact srasu#0042 on Discord, or email '''mc.jbogugde@srasu.org''' if you have any questions.</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=jbogugde_Minecraft_Server&diff=124105jbogugde Minecraft Server2020-09-14T19:48:28Z<p>Suskeyhose: /* Joining */</p>
<hr />
<div>The jbogugde Minecraft server is designed to provide players with lojban immersion through gameplay, providing its own translation of the game into lojban at a higher level of quality than the "official" translation.<br />
<br />
== Rules ==<br />
<br />
Since the server is designed for users to be immersed in the lojban language, speaking in other languages is discouraged. Because many people find speaking or writing and reading lojban hard, there isn't a strict requirement that ''all'' interactions be done in lojban, however there is one rule about it: if you intend to say something related to the game (be it to propose a trade, talk about where your coordinates are, mention that sweet vein of 9 diamonds you just found, etc.), then it must be done in lojban. Any conversation which is off-topic to playing minecraft may be held in other languages (although you are encouraged to use lojban for these as well!). The goal here is that non-lojban conversations are mostly to assist learners to express themselves or understand the language, not to encourage off-topic conversations.<br />
<br />
Beyond this, just try to be nice to the rest of the community!<br />
== Joining ==<br />
The server used the Java edition of the game, version 1.16.3, and is available at the following address:<br />
<br />
'''mc.jbogugde.srasu.org'''<br />
<br />
Once you're joined, make sure you accept the server resource pack and change your game's language to la .lojban. in the language settings.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
<br />
Currently there are plans to build out a small spawn village near the world origin which will allow players to create shops, experiences, farms, and similar community-oriented features to the world. If you want to claim a part of the land which is marked out as owned by an admin, then send a message to one of the moderators to ask about getting a plot in the spawn village.<br />
<br />
== Server Features ==<br />
<br />
The server isn't quite a vanilla server. It runs the fabric loader with a few server-side mods. This means that vanilla clients can connect as normal, but some additional features are included in the world. The two most important are sleep voting and land claims.<br />
When users sleep they vote for the night to be skipped. If enough players do, the night will be skipped and each player who slept through the night will be given a minor regeneration effect.<br />
Land may be claimed by a user with the flan mod[https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/flan]. To get started, use a golden hoe and right click on a corner of the land you want to claim, and then right click on the other corner. When completed, you will have claimed the land you drew out the box in, 15 blocks beneath it, and all blocks above it (right click on a block with a stick to determine who owns it). While inside the claim, you can send the command '''/flan menu''' to get a menu to pop up on your screen to set the permissions other players will have when inside the claim. Additional commands can be found with '''/help''' or on the mod page.<br />
<br />
== Moderators ==<br />
<br />
At the moment there are two moderators on the server, although if it becomes busy more may be added.<br />
# '''srasu''' (on the wiki at [[User:Suskeyhose]])<br />
# '''xRula'''<br />
If you need a moderator and none are online, then feel free to contact srasu#0042 on Discord, or email '''mc.jbogugde@srasu.org''' if you have any questions.</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=jbogugde_Minecraft_Server&diff=124104jbogugde Minecraft Server2020-09-14T13:24:17Z<p>Suskeyhose: Add game version</p>
<hr />
<div>The jbogugde Minecraft server is designed to provide players with lojban immersion through gameplay, providing its own translation of the game into lojban at a higher level of quality than the "official" translation.<br />
<br />
== Rules ==<br />
<br />
Since the server is designed for users to be immersed in the lojban language, speaking in other languages is discouraged. Because many people find speaking or writing and reading lojban hard, there isn't a strict requirement that ''all'' interactions be done in lojban, however there is one rule about it: if you intend to say something related to the game (be it to propose a trade, talk about where your coordinates are, mention that sweet vein of 9 diamonds you just found, etc.), then it must be done in lojban. Any conversation which is off-topic to playing minecraft may be held in other languages (although you are encouraged to use lojban for these as well!). The goal here is that non-lojban conversations are mostly to assist learners to express themselves or understand the language, not to encourage off-topic conversations.<br />
<br />
Beyond this, just try to be nice to the rest of the community!<br />
== Joining ==<br />
The game version is 1.16.3, and the server is available at the following address:<br />
<br />
'''mc.jbogugde.srasu.org'''<br />
<br />
Once you're joined, make sure you accept the server resource pack and change your game's language to la .lojban. in the language settings.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
<br />
Currently there are plans to build out a small spawn village near the world origin which will allow players to create shops, experiences, farms, and similar community-oriented features to the world. If you want to claim a part of the land which is marked out as owned by an admin, then send a message to one of the moderators to ask about getting a plot in the spawn village.<br />
<br />
== Server Features ==<br />
<br />
The server isn't quite a vanilla server. It runs the fabric loader with a few server-side mods. This means that vanilla clients can connect as normal, but some additional features are included in the world. The two most important are sleep voting and land claims.<br />
When users sleep they vote for the night to be skipped. If enough players do, the night will be skipped and each player who slept through the night will be given a minor regeneration effect.<br />
Land may be claimed by a user with the flan mod[https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/flan]. To get started, use a golden hoe and right click on a corner of the land you want to claim, and then right click on the other corner. When completed, you will have claimed the land you drew out the box in, 15 blocks beneath it, and all blocks above it (right click on a block with a stick to determine who owns it). While inside the claim, you can send the command '''/flan menu''' to get a menu to pop up on your screen to set the permissions other players will have when inside the claim. Additional commands can be found with '''/help''' or on the mod page.<br />
<br />
== Moderators ==<br />
<br />
At the moment there are two moderators on the server, although if it becomes busy more may be added.<br />
# '''srasu''' (on the wiki at [[User:Suskeyhose]])<br />
# '''xRula'''<br />
If you need a moderator and none are online, then feel free to contact srasu#0042 on Discord, or email '''mc.jbogugde@srasu.org''' if you have any questions.</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=jbogugde_Minecraft_Server&diff=124103jbogugde Minecraft Server2020-09-14T01:00:00Z<p>Suskeyhose: Created page with "The jbogugde Minecraft server is designed to provide players with lojban immersion through gameplay, providing its own translation of the game into lojban at a higher level of..."</p>
<hr />
<div>The jbogugde Minecraft server is designed to provide players with lojban immersion through gameplay, providing its own translation of the game into lojban at a higher level of quality than the "official" translation.<br />
<br />
== Rules ==<br />
<br />
Since the server is designed for users to be immersed in the lojban language, speaking in other languages is discouraged. Because many people find speaking or writing and reading lojban hard, there isn't a strict requirement that ''all'' interactions be done in lojban, however there is one rule about it: if you intend to say something related to the game (be it to propose a trade, talk about where your coordinates are, mention that sweet vein of 9 diamonds you just found, etc.), then it must be done in lojban. Any conversation which is off-topic to playing minecraft may be held in other languages (although you are encouraged to use lojban for these as well!). The goal here is that non-lojban conversations are mostly to assist learners to express themselves or understand the language, not to encourage off-topic conversations.<br />
<br />
Beyond this, just try to be nice to the rest of the community!<br />
== Joining ==<br />
The server is available at the following address:<br />
<br />
'''mc.jbogugde.srasu.org'''<br />
<br />
Once you're joined, make sure you accept the server resource pack and change your game's language to la .lojban. in the language settings.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
<br />
Currently there are plans to build out a small spawn village near the world origin which will allow players to create shops, experiences, farms, and similar community-oriented features to the world. If you want to claim a part of the land which is marked out as owned by an admin, then send a message to one of the moderators to ask about getting a plot in the spawn village.<br />
<br />
== Server Features ==<br />
<br />
The server isn't quite a vanilla server. It runs the fabric loader with a few server-side mods. This means that vanilla clients can connect as normal, but some additional features are included in the world. The two most important are sleep voting and land claims.<br />
When users sleep they vote for the night to be skipped. If enough players do, the night will be skipped and each player who slept through the night will be given a minor regeneration effect.<br />
Land may be claimed by a user with the flan mod[https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/flan]. To get started, use a golden hoe and right click on a corner of the land you want to claim, and then right click on the other corner. When completed, you will have claimed the land you drew out the box in, 15 blocks beneath it, and all blocks above it (right click on a block with a stick to determine who owns it). While inside the claim, you can send the command '''/flan menu''' to get a menu to pop up on your screen to set the permissions other players will have when inside the claim. Additional commands can be found with '''/help''' or on the mod page.<br />
<br />
== Moderators ==<br />
<br />
At the moment there are two moderators on the server, although if it becomes busy more may be added.<br />
# '''srasu''' (on the wiki at [[User:Suskeyhose]])<br />
# '''xRula'''<br />
If you need a moderator and none are online, then feel free to contact srasu#0042 on Discord, or email '''mc.jbogugde@srasu.org''' if you have any questions.</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=User:Suskeyhose&diff=124102User:Suskeyhose2020-09-13T17:38:02Z<p>Suskeyhose: /* Aliases */</p>
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<div>===Aliases===<br />
<br />
* '''Suskeyhose'''<br />
<br />
* '''syski'os''' -- Lojbanization of Suskeyhose<br />
<br />
* '''saski'o''' -- Lujvo created by [[la selpa'i]] based on syski'os<br />
<br />
* '''sasycto''' -- Got a haircut, was given this nickname<br />
<br />
* '''sasyctu''' -- Made from sasycto while assisting nintadni<br />
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* '''srasu''' -- Since so many of the names started with '''sas''', decided to take on this name</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=new_jei&diff=124033new jei2020-05-15T21:47:57Z<p>Suskeyhose: Remove controversial example sentence</p>
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<div>{{jbocre/en}}<br />
A new use for the [[cmavo]] '''jei''', as proposed by [[la saski'o]].<br />
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{| class="wikitable" width="800" style="background: FFF8DC"<br />
|<br />
==cmavo: jei (NU)==<br />
<br />
====Proposed Definition====<br />
<br />
abstractor: truth-value abstractor; x1 is a predication representing whether [bridi] is true under epistemology x2<br />
<br />
====See Also:====<br />
* {jetnu}<br />
* {jitfa}<br />
* {du'u}<br />
====Keywords====<br />
*<br />
<br />
====Examples====<br />
:'''.i mi djuno lojei mi morsi'''<br />
:''I know if it is true that I am dead''<br />
<br />
====Formulae====<br />
* '''jei broda''' == '''du'u xukau jetnu fa lodu'u broda'''<br />
* '''lo jei broda kei be ko'a''' == '''lo du'u xukau jetnu fa lodu'u broda kei ko'a'''<br />
====Merits====<br />
<br />
The classical interpretation of '''jei''' is such that the x1 is a number, ranging from 0 to 1. This isn't a particularly useful construct under normal usage of lojban, and seems to be a holdover from when there was some intention to introduce fuzzy logic to the language. New-'''jei''' instead focuses on conventional use of the language with the current vlaste and semantics, allowing '''jei''' to become a useful abstraction in casual conversation. While '''du'u''' allows you to talk about facts about the universe, whether they are true or false, it doesn't provide a convenient way to talk about if those predications are true; new-'''jei''' allows that.<br />
<br />
This new usage makes a few assumptions about truthiness and falsiness, namely that lojban does not have or need a primitive way to talk about true or false the way programming languages do (even English for example has the words true and false which more closely relate to loka jetnu and loka jitfa respectively, rather than a primitive representation of boolean value), but instead that truthiness and falsiness are simply properties of predications. Under that assumption, '''jei''' takes on a role of creating a predication to encapsulate the truth value of another predication.<br />
|}</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=User:Suskeyhose&diff=124032User:Suskeyhose2020-05-15T20:14:53Z<p>Suskeyhose: Add section on aliases</p>
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<div>===Aliases===<br />
<br />
* '''Suskeyhose'''<br />
<br />
* '''syski'os''' -- Lojbanization of Suskeyhose<br />
<br />
* '''saski'o''' -- Lujvo created by [[la selpa'i]] based on syski'os<br />
<br />
* '''sasycto''' -- Got a haircut, was given this nickname<br />
<br />
* '''sasyctu''' -- Made from sasycto while assisting nintadni</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=UserWiki:Suskeyhose&diff=124031UserWiki:Suskeyhose2020-05-15T20:12:21Z<p>Suskeyhose: import user wiki</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[User:Suskeyhose]]</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=la_saski%27o&diff=124030la saski'o2020-05-15T20:11:20Z<p>Suskeyhose: Suskeyhose moved page la saski'o to User:Suskeyhose: Creating a redirect to my user</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[User:Suskeyhose]]</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=User:Suskeyhose&diff=124029User:Suskeyhose2020-05-15T20:11:20Z<p>Suskeyhose: Suskeyhose moved page la saski'o to User:Suskeyhose: Creating a redirect to my user</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[User:Suskeyhose]]</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=User:Suskeyhose&diff=124028User:Suskeyhose2020-05-15T20:08:13Z<p>Suskeyhose: Add redirect to my user</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[User:Suskeyhose]]</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=new_jei&diff=124027new jei2020-05-15T20:05:18Z<p>Suskeyhose: Update submitter's name</p>
<hr />
<div>{{jbocre/en}}<br />
A new use for the [[cmavo]] '''jei''', as proposed by [[la saski'o]].<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable" width="800" style="background: FFF8DC"<br />
|<br />
==cmavo: jei (NU)==<br />
<br />
====Proposed Definition====<br />
<br />
abstractor: truth-value abstractor; x1 is a predication representing whether [bridi] is true under epistemology x2<br />
<br />
====See Also:====<br />
* {jetnu}<br />
* {jitfa}<br />
* {du'u}<br />
====Keywords====<br />
*<br />
<br />
====Examples====<br />
:'''.i mi djuno lojei mi morsi'''<br />
:''I know if it is true that I am dead''<br />
<br />
:'''.i lo jei la kaisr cu se tunta lo dakfu cu mo .i jetnu'''<br />
<br />
:''The truthiness of Caesar being stabbed by a knife is what? Truth''<br />
====Formulae====<br />
* '''jei broda''' == '''du'u xukau jetnu fa lodu'u broda'''<br />
* '''lo jei broda kei be ko'a''' == '''lo du'u xukau jetnu fa lodu'u broda kei ko'a'''<br />
====Merits====<br />
<br />
The classical interpretation of '''jei''' is such that the x1 is a number, ranging from 0 to 1. This isn't a particularly useful construct under normal usage of lojban, and seems to be a holdover from when there was some intention to introduce fuzzy logic to the language. New-'''jei''' instead focuses on conventional use of the language with the current vlaste and semantics, allowing '''jei''' to become a useful abstraction in casual conversation. While '''du'u''' allows you to talk about facts about the universe, whether they are true or false, it doesn't provide a convenient way to talk about if those predications are true; new-'''jei''' allows that.<br />
<br />
This new usage makes a few assumptions about truthiness and falsiness, namely that lojban does not have or need a primitive way to talk about true or false the way programming languages do (even English for example has the words true and false which more closely relate to loka jetnu and loka jitfa respectively, rather than a primitive representation of boolean value), but instead that truthiness and falsiness are simply properties of predications. Under that assumption, '''jei''' takes on a role of creating a predication to encapsulate the truth value of another predication.<br />
|}</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=new_jei&diff=124026new jei2020-05-15T19:58:55Z<p>Suskeyhose: </p>
<hr />
<div>{{jbocre/en}}<br />
A new use for the [[cmavo]] '''jei''', as proposed by la sasyctu.<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable" width="800" style="background: FFF8DC"<br />
|<br />
==cmavo: jei (NU)==<br />
<br />
====Proposed Definition====<br />
<br />
abstractor: truth-value abstractor; x1 is a predication representing whether [bridi] is true under epistemology x2<br />
<br />
====See Also:====<br />
* {jetnu}<br />
* {jitfa}<br />
* {du'u}<br />
====Keywords====<br />
*<br />
<br />
====Examples====<br />
:'''.i mi djuno lojei mi morsi'''<br />
:''I know if it is true that I am dead''<br />
<br />
:'''.i lo jei la kaisr cu se tunta lo dakfu cu mo .i jetnu'''<br />
<br />
:''The truthiness of Caesar being stabbed by a knife is what? Truth''<br />
====Formulae====<br />
* '''jei broda''' == '''du'u xukau jetnu fa lodu'u broda'''<br />
* '''lo jei broda kei be ko'a''' == '''lo du'u xukau jetnu fa lodu'u broda kei ko'a'''<br />
====Merits====<br />
<br />
The classical interpretation of '''jei''' is such that the x1 is a number, ranging from 0 to 1. This isn't a particularly useful construct under normal usage of lojban, and seems to be a holdover from when there was some intention to introduce fuzzy logic to the language. New-'''jei''' instead focuses on conventional use of the language with the current vlaste and semantics, allowing '''jei''' to become a useful abstraction in casual conversation. While '''du'u''' allows you to talk about facts about the universe, whether they are true or false, it doesn't provide a convenient way to talk about if those predications are true; new-'''jei''' allows that.<br />
<br />
This new usage makes a few assumptions about truthiness and falsiness, namely that lojban does not have or need a primitive way to talk about true or false the way programming languages do (even English for example has the words true and false which more closely relate to loka jetnu and loka jitfa respectively, rather than a primitive representation of boolean value), but instead that truthiness and falsiness are simply properties of predications. Under that assumption, '''jei''' takes on a role of creating a predication to encapsulate the truth value of another predication.<br />
|}</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=new_jei&diff=124025new jei2020-05-15T19:44:29Z<p>Suskeyhose: </p>
<hr />
<div>{{jbocre/en}}<br />
A new use for the [[cmavo]] '''jei''', as proposed by la sasyctu.<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable" width="800" style="background: FFF8DC"<br />
|<br />
==cmavo: jei (NU)==<br />
<br />
====Proposed Definition====<br />
<br />
abstractor: truth-value abstractor; x1 is a predication representing if [bridi] is true under epistemology x2<br />
<br />
====See Also:====<br />
* {jetnu}<br />
* {jitfa}<br />
* {du'u}<br />
====Keywords====<br />
*<br />
<br />
====Examples====<br />
:'''.i mi djuno lojei mi morsi'''<br />
:''I know if it is true that I am dead''<br />
<br />
:'''.i lo jei la kaisr cu se tunta lo dakfu cu mo .i jetnu'''<br />
<br />
:''The truthiness of Caesar being stabbed by a knife is what? Truth''<br />
====Formulae====<br />
* '''jei broda''' == '''du'u xukau jetnu fa lodu'u broda'''<br />
* '''lo jei broda kei be ko'a''' == '''lo du'u xukau jetnu fa lodu'u broda kei ko'a'''<br />
====Merits====<br />
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The classical interpretation of '''jei''' is such that the x1 is a number, ranging from 0 to 1. This isn't a particularly useful construct under normal usage of lojban, and seems to be a holdover from when there was some intention to introduce fuzzy logic to the language. New-'''jei''' instead focuses on conventional use of the language with the current vlaste and semantics, allowing '''jei''' to become a useful abstraction in casual conversation. While '''du'u''' allows you to talk about facts about the universe, whether they are true or false, it doesn't provide a convenient way to talk about if those predications are true; new-'''jei''' allows that.<br />
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This new usage makes a few assumptions about truthiness and falsiness, namely that lojban does not have or need a primitive way to talk about true or false the way programming languages do (even English for example has the words true and false which more closely relate to loka jetnu and loka jitfa respectively, rather than a primitive representation of boolean value), but instead that truthiness and falsiness are simply properties of predications. Under that assumption, '''jei''' takes on a role of creating a predication to encapsulate the truth value of another predication.<br />
|}</div>Suskeyhosehttps://mw-live.lojban.org/index.php?title=new_jei&diff=124024new jei2020-05-15T19:33:18Z<p>Suskeyhose: Created page with "{{jbocre/en}} A new use for the cmavo '''jei''', as proposed by la sasyctu. {| class="wikitable" width="800" style="background: FFF8DC" | ==cmavo: jei (NU)== ====Propose..."</p>
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A new use for the [[cmavo]] '''jei''', as proposed by la sasyctu.<br />
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==cmavo: jei (NU)==<br />
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====Proposed Definition====<br />
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abstractor: truth-value abstractor; x1 is a predication representing if [bridi] is true under epistemology x2<br />
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====See Also:====<br />
* {jetnu}<br />
* {jitfa}<br />
* {du'u}<br />
====Keywords====<br />
*<br />
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====Examples====<br />
:'''.i mi djuno lojei mi morsi'''<br />
:''I know if it is true that I am dead''<br />
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:'''.i lo jei la kaisr cu se tunta lo dakfu cu mo .i jetnu'''<br />
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:''The truthiness of Ceaser being stabbed by a knife is what? Truth''<br />
====Formulae====<br />
* '''jei broda''' == '''du'u xukau jetnu fa lodu'u broda'''<br />
* '''lo jei broda kei be ko'a''' == '''lo du'u xukau jetnu fa lodu'u broda kei ko'a'''<br />
====Merits====<br />
<br />
The classical interpretation of '''jei''' is such that the x1 is a number, ranging from 0 to 1. This isn't a particularly useful construct under normal usage of lojban, and seems to be a holdover from when there was some intention to introduce fuzzy logic to the language. New-'''jei''' instead focuses on conventional use of the language with the current vlaste and semantics, allowing '''jei''' to become a useful abstraction in casual conversation. While '''du'u''' allows you to talk about facts about the universe, whether they are true or false, it doesn't provide a convenient way to talk about if those predications are true; new-'''jei''' allows that.<br />
<br />
This new usage makes a few assumptions about truthiness and falsiness, namely that lojban does not have or need a primitive way to talk about true or false the way programming languages do (even English for example has the words true and false which more closely relate to loka jetnu and loka jitfa respectively, rather than a primitive representation of boolean value), but instead that truthiness and falsiness are simply properties of predications. Under that assumption, '''jei''' takes on a role of creating a predication to encapsulate the truth value of another predication.<br />
|}</div>Suskeyhose